```Date: Sep 7, 2017 10:38 PM
Author: Dan Christensen
Subject: Re: 0 = 1

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 9:40:13 PM UTC-4, conway wrote:> Dan....> > You are starting to play fair. I AGREE that this idea needs a LOT of work.  The fact that you are still here....suggest you know at some level "something" might here.  Help me!  Also I agree my logic can be "garbled".    I am a philosopher.  Not a mathematician.  Mathematics...(indeed all the sciences) were born in philosophy.  This idea makes sense.  I think you see that.  Until now you have refused to take it serious however because you "believe" that I have not done my homework (I have, just not the kind you like).  Give me a serious....honest chance to explain this idea to you.   > > N = set>Do you mean N is an arbitrary set?> A = ANY number in the set > So A is an element of N that is also a number? Might there be non-numbers in N?> > z1 = quantity of value (we can work on a more "formal" definition)> > z2 = quantity of space (we can work on a more "formal" definition)> > A = (z1+z2)>So z1 and z2 are simply any pair of numbers such that A = z1+z2?If A=2 then could we have z1 = 5 and z2 = -3?> ANY binary expression of multiplication> > z1 x z2> z2 x z1>Meaning? > 3 x 2> > z1 for 3 = 3> z2 for 3 = 3Doesn't z1+z2 have to be 3?> z1 for 2 = 2> z2 for 2 = 2> > 3(as z1) x 2(as z2)> 3(as z2) x 2(as z1)...> > z1 for 1 = 1> z2 for 1 = 1> > z1 for 0 = 0> z2 for 0 = 1> Makes no sense at all. Examples will not do in this context. We need unambiguous definitions. Maybe something of the form: For all x in R, there exists (unique ?) z1 and z2 in R such that _______________ (Fill in the blank)But even if you manage to do this, you must show how this relationship somehow determines the real value of x where 0x=1. It's just too bizarre. Every elementary school graduate knows that 0x is always 0 for ANY real number x. There can be no doubt about this. I really can't see where you are going with this. Are you deliberately trying to create confusion and frustration among students?DanDownload my DC Proof 2.0 software at http://www.dcproof.comVisit my Math Blog at http://www.dcproof.wordpress.com
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