Date: Sep 21, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: Bill
Subject: Re: 0 = 1

Markus Klyver wrote:
> Den torsdag 21 september 2017 kl. 03:40:16 UTC+2 skrev conway:
>>> Den onsdag 20 september 2017 kl. 15:30:12 UTC+2 skrev
>>> conway:

>>>>> How is 0 space?
>>>> Markus
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>>>> I can "see" the space of zero on ANY number line.

>>> Anyting that is "empty" can be measured. ANY time I
>>> I have zero of anything, I still posses space.
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>>> This means nothing. How exactly is 0 space? Answer
>>> the question.

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>> Markus
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>> Zero is a dimension that is empty. Zero is a space that is empty. Zero "on" the number has a space, and it is empty of value. Zero in my bank account is no money(value), but the "empty" space of a bank account. Between the earth and the moon is zero and is space.
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>> Euclid says a dimension is a line ( I agree )
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>> A line is a collection of points ( I agree )
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>> zero is a single point (I agree), with no dimension (I disagree).....
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>> consider.....have you ever seen, or used, a point in mathematics in which the point in question could NOT have be measured? Measurement is a observation involving "space" "dimension"....etc...
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>> If I allow a point to have dimension...it then requires no debate in understanding how a "line" obtains dimension when it is composed of things that do NOT have dimension.....so on.....any better?

> But zero is a number. How is a number a "dimension"? Do you consider zero-dimensional vector spaces? The only zero-dimensional vector space is the trivial vector space containing the null vector.
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> Other than that, your babble makes no sense whatsoever. What dimension and what space are you talking about? You are just babbling word salad without any coherent meaning here. EXPLAIN what you mean by dimension and space and EXPLAIN how "zero is a dimension that is empty". And explain how dimensions can be "empty", etc etc.
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> And a dimension is not a line, and Euclid said no such thing. Please stop being stupid on the Internet, thank you.


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