Date: Nov 4, 2012 11:41 AM Author: kirby urner Subject: Re: Of Sequence and Success >> Flash Anzan is where you don't even use an abacus (other

>> arithmetic sports allow it).

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>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/2012/oct/29/mathematics

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> <snip>

>> So is this about "getting good at math"? I could see one arguing that

>> not much math is involved.

>>

>> This is arithmetic.

>>

> That is not "arithmetic", that is computation, just a part of arithmetic.

So it's not the whole of arithmetic, just part of it.

We know that these same contestants are learning all four algorithms

with that abacus, and are developing the same basic fluency about

units, unit conversion, fractions, decimals, as other kids, so Flash

Anzan is just a part of arithmetic for them as well. Using an abacus

gives them an advantage.

American students taught without it will never be as good at

computation, in the main. The Americans may be stronger in other

ways, every culture makes its investments. The English tend to be

stronger than the Americans in vocabulary and awareness of history.[1]

Grade school also includes the concept of prime versus composite

number. This is where I think grade school level numeracy could do

more to introduce higher math concepts and start introducing a first

computer language at the same time. I'd want to see Euclid's Method

explained -- usually bleeped over in today's post US Civil War

textbooks (not saying it was in them previously either).

Prime vs composite includes "relatively prime" i.e. no factors in

common. gcd(a,b) == 1. This is important for knowing when a fraction

(in the sense of a rational number, p/q) is in lowest terms: gcd(p,q)

== 1.

Right now, it seems to be college computer science and/or number

theory that pick up Euclid's Method and extend it. You'll find it in

Knuth's TAOCS (The Art of Computer Science) for sure, a very

mathematical treatise packed with ideas that are accessible to young

supple minds as well as creaky old ones.

> And your examples are sport, which is fine. Arithmetic also includes

> recognizing the arithmetic in various scenarios and contexts. Knowing when

> to add or multiply. Recognizing basic and fundamental patterns like the

> commutative and distributive properties. Understanding the nature of

> physical quantities and the relationship of the "value" and the "unit" to

> them. Knowing how to write and say numbers and use the 13 characters (0-9

> period comma minus). Understanding place value. Knowing fractions, both

> vulgar and decimal, and recognizing that they are numbers and have their

> place on the number line.

We should do more with non-commutative sooner. If you hold a business

envelop towards you, address facing you and right side up, and do

these two operations: flip away (so lying on its back), flip right (as

if axis through your chest, envelope pivots right), the outcome is

different than if you pivot right first, then flip it back (axis

horizontal).

Given matrices express rotation (I prefer introducing matrices as

rotation devices rather than systems of linear equations to be

"reduced"), and their multiplication is non-commutative, that would

make sense. Plus we have the computer to do the multiplying (with

programs the students wrote, perhaps as teams, perhaps in more than

one language).

More vectors and matrices before college! Is that still arithmetic then?

Spatial geometry needn't have a whole lot of algebra in it at first.

I like to stuff data for various polyhedrons into SQL tables.

(1) Main table: one line per polyhedron, gives each an id.

(2) Faces table gives each face going around in a loop, using vectors

as nodes. From the face table you can figure edges as between any two

consecutive vectors to the same face.

(3) And finally I have the vectors table. 26 vectors happen to work

well for this apparatus, so A-Z.

Might we call this arithmetic? Or does the appearance of 2nd roots

(as when figuring lengths) mean we're outside arithmetic all of a

sudden?

My polyhedrons (using the 26 vertexes) are:

(1) tetrahedron (ABCD)

(2) its dual tetrahedron (EFGH)

(3) their combination, the cube (same verts)

(4) cube's dual the octahedron (IJKLM)

(5) the rhombic dodecahedron -- cube + octa combination (so same

verts already used)

(6) its dual, the cuboctahedron (OPQRSTUVWXYZ) but scaled up to

unit-diameter edges (same as spheres) giving us the CCP / FCC, ground

zero for organic chemistry, crystallography and the like

(http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/xtals101.html -- graphics by me, using

free tools).

The relative volumes for 1-6 are: 1:1:3:4:6:20

which whole numbers you won't see in Education Mafia schools, but you

*will* see in more Asia-influenced Education Yakuza schools (where

I've been teaching, sometimes as a guest teacher, though I did teach

high school full time for two consecutive years, just a few miles from

the Statue of Liberty).

Having a unit-volume tetrahedron and a model of 3rd powering that

shows a growing-shrinking regular tetrahedron instead of a cube is

strictly outside Mafia Math (MM).

It's not like the Yakuza schools teach that to the exclusion of the

traditional / conventional unit-volume cube 3rd powering = cubing

approach, just that our students learn that's cultural / ethnic, not

universal as if the ETs had to believe it.

Indeed, in Martian Math, the way I teach it now [2], the Martians and

Earthlings are collaborating on building a dam (joint venture) in a

deep canyon. They have different unit measure for concrete, the

Martians using a tetrahedron of edges D, the Earthlings / Americans

using a cube of edges R, were R == (1/2) * D.

I wonder if this is algebra already, since R and D are but letters,

referring the the Radius and Diameter of a sphere.

>

> You really don't appreciate all of this until you actually teach a young

> student all of this. We take it for granted. Also, we don't remember the

> experience of learning all of this because it occurs before we know enough

> to put it in perspective. We might remember the setting, but not the

> experience. We remember what it was like to learn algebra but not what it

> was like to learn our ABCs or to count or our first exposure to adding and

> subtracting. By the time we start to have genuine memories of learning late

> in primary school, or sometimes not till middle school, after the basics

> have been covered.

>

I don't think you should build adult forgetfulness into your theories

though it's true for some adults. I have an excellent memory, maybe

because my trajectory was not uniform, meaning it doesn't all blend

together in retrospect. I remember a misconception I had about the

long division algorithm, in 3rd grade (first form, a British school),

that I had to get over. In 2nd grade, we were switching to New Math.

We did lots with an abacus with colored beads, but not the Japanese

kind with fives.

I remember learning to read and my nose getting in the way at first as

I learned to focus.

> Besides its practical importance, arithmetic is about becoming familiar with

> numbers, especially real numbers. What could be more important to higher

> math? I didn't say "also important" I said "more important"?

>

So real numbers are included eh? I would think drawing a boundary at

the rational numbers would be helpful for distinguishing "arithmetic"

from "not arithmetic".

Your thinking is always full of surprises because you use your words

the way you do, meaning what you mean, without much awareness that

your specific usage patterns are like finger prints, unique to the

individual, even if there's a family resemblance to other fingers.

This is true with everyone of course, but you seem less aware of your

uniqueness. In contrast, I have to be very aware of my uniqueness

because I'm always bringing in important differences.

For example, I have this world map I bring to classrooms that looks

really strange. It's not a Mercator nor even a Snyder Projection

(favored by National Geographic). I talk about its history and how

exotic it is, and how they won't see it very often around school.

This brands me as an outsider, more like an ET. I'm accustomed to

playing that role. I'm invited into classrooms to tell them things

most of the teachers have never learned either. That impresses them.

> When you actually teach children, what to teach comes pretty easy, but I

> suppose that depends on what kind of teacher you are. I start a lesson with

> my son and I know right away if I am missing something. When you have the

> teaching bug you are able to be both the student and the teacher at the same

> time. This becomes more and more difficult when the class is larger and more

> diverse in level. Obviously, it breaks down completely when the class has a

> 100+ students, most of them unprepared and uninterested, like we are seeing

> in these large required college introductory classes.

>

> Bob Hansen

I have this intuition that as your son gets older you're going to keep

tracking along, with your focus shifting into higher grades. You are

focused on elementary school math right now because that's the current

state of your nuclear family.

However, I think curriculum writing / designing / assessing needs to

take into account the whole picture, i.e. not just time slices.

What are the moving targets and how is what you're learning in 4th

grade going to prove relevant in 12th grade etc.?

Show us the whole map and your choices based on its study.

If you just go piecemeal, you might turn down a blind alley.

Talk about vectors more, and when you think we should introduce them,

if you want to sound more credible as a curriculum assessor.

As we all know, the Education Mafia does not have the power to change

from within except by lots of things breaking, crises, melodrama etc.

As an ET / Yakuza / Asian [2] I get to star in more of a "Mars

attacks" type scenario wherein I go to the parent-age adults (whether

they have kids or not) and show them how these other adults (the

teachers), being Earthlings / Americans, are thereby not especially

conversant with our alien brand of schooling.

"Rhombic dodecahedron? You've *got* to be kidding me" is a first

response, before they're quickly overwhelmed by it's space-filling

relevance.

Your son is probably not going to learn much about polyhedrons or V +

F == E + 2 if going to school in post Civil War Florida. That's just

not in the cards in that state at this time in my view (except maybe

in the Orlando / Cape Canaveral area?).

However, given the Internet, you have the power to import learning

materials, including the more Asian-flavored stuff, like Singapore

Math (a moving target). You, the dad, even read the ET stuff

directly, by tuning in Portland via math-teach, an Asian / Cascadian

capital [4] (with strong alliances to other North American capitals

(some of them)).

You may be more influenced than you think by this exposure. If you

ever catch yourself teaching that 3rd powering could be modeled by a

tetrahedron, take a moment to praise Portlandia maybe.[5]

Kirby

[1] http://youtu.be/dABo_DCIdpM (I like this guy's ability to do

Engish accents but the language is foul, exactly they way kids talk at

recess when the teacher's back is turned, and so more of that

dangerous Youtube stuff (part of what holds American kids back is the

raging hypocrisy of the adults, where they act all Puritanical in

contradiction to how they behaved as children, which children tend to

be bawdier in their vocabularies than teachers, more fluent in that

respect (in Portland we celebrate pirates and piracy which helps up

our tolerance level for foul language (just read our local weeklies)).

[2] Background for teachers (Mafia defectors welcome):

http://wikieducator.org/Martian_Math

http://www.4dsolutions.net/satacad/martianmath/toc.html

[3] Haim doesn't agree I'm Asian, though maybe he concedes if we're

talking "memes" and not "genes"

[4] http://www.cascadianow.org/occupied-cascadia-documentary-trailer-released/

(native Americans versus Roman imperialism? (architectural cues))

[5] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Portlandia_Statue_%28Multnomah_County,_Oregon_scenic_images%29_%28mulDA0026%29.jpg

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