Date: Nov 7, 2012 6:36 PM
Author: Richard Hake
Subject: [math-learn] Necessary and Sufficient Conditions For Genuine Scientific<br> Research - Response To Greeno

Some subscribers to Math-Learn might be interested in a recent post 
"Necessary and Sufficient Conditions For Genuine Scientific Research
- Response To Greeno" [Hake (2012)]. The abstract reads:

ABSTRACT: In response to "Math Education Research Doesn't Exist?
Response to Schremmer" [Hake (2012a) at <>, Clyde
Greeno at <> wrote that his statement that the
six principles that, according to "Scientific Research in Education"
at <>, p. 2: "underlie all scientific inquiry
(including educational research)" are "glibly superficial and badly
unknowing about the nature of science" was simply an observation that
those six principles in no way *suffice* as criteria (i.e., are both
necessary and sufficient) for distinguishing scientific from
non-scientific educational research.

Greeno wrote "Tragically, much of educational research now can use
the NRC report as a basis for so polluting the name of 'scientific
educational research' that distinguishing genuine scientific research
from the rest will be a very cumbersome task."

I wonder if Greeno would consider assisting the math community in
"distinguishing genuine scientific research from the rest" by setting
forth his own *necessary and sufficient* conditions for "genuine
scientific research"?

BTW, I attempted to address the two crucial questions: (a) "Can
Education Research Be 'Scientific'?" and (b) "What's 'Scientific'?"
in a 75 kB post "Can Education Research Be 'Scientific'? What's
'Scientific'?" [Hake (2012b)] at <> containing
over 100 references and over 180 hot-linked URL's, but, as far as I
know, no *substantive* responses were forthcoming.

To access the complete 8 kB post please click on <>.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
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REFERENCES [URL shortened by <> and accessed on 07 Nov 2012.]
Hake, R.R. 2012. "Necessary and Sufficient Conditions For Genuine
Scientific Research - Response To Greeno" online on the OPEN! AERA-L
archives at <>. Post of 7 Nov 2012 13:49:33-0800
to AERA-L and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the complete post
are being transmitted to several discussion lists and are also on my
blog "Hake'sEdStuff" at <> with a provision for

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