Date: Dec 18, 2012 6:25 PM
Author: Greg Goodknight
Subject: Re: Would effective gun control laws be 'unacceptable social engineering'?

Golly, GS, from a chart I found at the Guardian, the murder rates in the 
US and India, 5.9 vs 5.5 per 100,000 population, doesn't seem to give
India a wide latitude to gloat. What about your culture of violence?

- -G

On 12/18/2012 09:33 AM, GS Chandy wrote:
> My post dt. Dec 18, 2012 11:50 AM, provided some links to some useful articles in the New Yorker. I believe the New Yorker has provided by and large the most thoughtful coverage I've found. Here are links to some more worthwhile pieces in that magazine:
> - -- "Guns and the Limits of Shame" -
> ("What does it take for a society to be sickened by its own behavior and to change its attitudes?" Good question)
> - -- "Making Gun Control Happen" -
> ("Do you feel that? That's your sense of moral outrage dissipating").
> - -- "America's Culture of Violence" -
> ("A troubled young man in Connecticut lays his hands on the kinds of guns that no civilian should ever have and does something that no civilization should ever see").
> - -- "America's Shame: Words and Tears Aren't Enough" -
> ("It's America, you know. That sort of thing happens [here].")
> In particular, I'm interested to find out whether US citizens would be interested to get together effectively (with their government) to remove this taint on the USA. If not, I guess we would have to conclude that even this horror has not been enough to "be sickened by its own behavior and to change its attitudes".
> ("Still Shoveling Away!")