Date: Jan 23, 2013 6:37 PM Author: mahipal7638@gmail.com Subject: Re: meforce On Jan 16, 7:45 pm, Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Given E=mc^2 and f=dp/dt.

> Now go play with the Universe.

[Please not the change in newsgroups. Ok...]

If the line between science fiction and science fact

doesn't drive you crazy, then you're just not trying!

John A. Wheeler hand wrote:

http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jaw_scan0011.jpg

?Surely, as you suggest, a poetic thought. How lucky we are to live in

this exciting time of discovery and have the memory of Charles

Darwin?s modest greatness as inspiration.? ? John Archibald Wheeler

(July 22, 1989)

regarding this original version I had mailed him

http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/meforceorig.pdf

which I later updated to

http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/meforce.pdf

PROVE

RAVEN

OVERT

VERSE

ENTER

{PROVE RAVEN OVERT VERSE ENTER} a rare word square.

http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/whiteboards/ for fun eyes only.

Quoting John D. Barrow from

http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/seminarw.html :

"There is no magic formula that can be called upon to generate all

the possible varieties of these attributes. They are never fully

exhaustible. No program or equation can generate all beauty or all

ugliness: indeed there is no sure way of recognizing either of these

attributes when you see them. The restrictions of mathematics and

logic prevent these prospective properties falling victim to mere

technique even though we can habitually entertain notions of beauty

or ugliness. The prospective properties of things cannot be

trammeled up within any logical Theory of Everything. No non-poetic

account of reality can be complete

There is no formula that can deliver all truth, all harmony, all

simplicity. No Theory of Everything can ever provide total insight,

for to see through everything would leave us seeing nothing at all."

The webpage is missing the period after "... reality can be complete."

"No non-poetic account of reality can be complete." -- John D. Barrow

This thread presents three derivations for the |MEforce> Paradox:

1. The play it backwards again Sam method (1993)

2. The cup is half empty, half full method (1994)

3. The original derivation (1987)

The paradox is: Why do F=pdot and E=mc^2, the two foundations of

modern physics, result in this |meforce>? Purely accidental? I think

not! Is Nature absurd? I hope not.

If you think any or all of this is BS (BullShit, not Before Sagan),

then say so in writing. If you think it's just symbolic artifact with

no basis in physics, math, philosophy, poetry, ... then say so. There

are no ground rules. You won't hurt my feelings. The least you will do

is change <ME>. Change is good. Change is unstoppable. Change is more

than mere MOTION. Put your GUTs into it and try stomp on my TOE! Most

of all, enjoy. It's a big Universe out there and somebody's gotta tame

it.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 2 c me %%%

Method 1: Sometimes referred to as the Satanic Method.(1993)

Given Einstein's E=mc^2 equation. This is the famous popular

representation. It's an icon of the twentieth century. Take this and

just write it backwards...2^cm=E. 2 c m=E. Use the poetic artistic

license and make the "=" vanishingly small. This leaves 2 c mE. Which

reads as "To see ME", phonetically speaking. QED.

If you are the graphically animated video type, imagine the symbols

dancing before your eyes. By some accident of entropy, the

informational kind, the symbols converge to "2 c mE". Take the "mE" as

a clue.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 2 c me %%%

Method 2: The cup is half matter and half energy.(1994)

Imagine a cup. It is a container of fluid, perhaps TEA. Let this cup

represent the Space which is the Universe. Space is occupied by matter

and energy. This space is a cup of sorts. Since there is only matter

and energy that the cup can contain, let it.

E=(gamma)m=m taking gamma=1 if v=0. There is no velocity if time is

assumed to be frozen still. The thought experiment does assume time is

frozen so as to paint a instantaneous picture of the Universe. This is

really not a big assumption. Osculating Time may be a name for this

process. But I digress and have introduced unnecessary complexity.

The cup (i.e., space) contains some matter and some energy. The law of

conservation of mass-energy is applicable as always. Besides matter

and energy, what else is there to occupy space? Nothing, I imagine. So

the state of the cup with some matter and some energy represents an

arbitrary state for the Universe. Let time move forward by a

quantifiably measurable amount. Be sure to avoid bumping into Zeno's

Paradox or nothing will change.

At this new time, the state of matter and energy has changed. This

change is due to the natural processes that obey E=m. This means

fusion, photosynthesis, particle-antiparticle pair productions and

annihilations, expansion of the Universe, etc. You name it, E=m

applies

to it.

Conclusion: ME changes from time a to time b.

It's a fact. It's observable, measurable, and a daily reality. Some

of you "pure" physicist types should be glad and thankful that I

didn't include the natural feeling that humans experience as change

into the argument. Consciousness and cognizance and language borders

that "ME" crosses haven't even been addressed. That's why this thread

is cross-posted. I'm a writer, I gotta find readers where ever they

may actually be. So call ME selfish. I am. It's a ME-Centric

Universe. The likes of which hasn't even been conceived before.

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Method 3: The original derivation (1987)

Targeted to mathematicians in particular. Differential Calculus is an

acquired art, after all. No one is born knowing self-adjointness.

Axiom: E=mc^2 where v=0 for only simplicity's sake.

Since E=mc^2, taking the derivative of both sides yields

dE=(c^2)dm+0 since c=constant.

But c^2=E/m. Substituting, yields dE=(E/m)dm. Rearranging,

mdE=Edm

mdE-Edm=0

Imagine the MATHEMATICS if this equation were

mdE+Edm=0

Note the assumed sign change. (No flames yet).

Which means that d(mE)=0. This is the self-adjoint form.

[Aside. Self? Get it? ME and Self? Do you see ME as yourself there?]

But this is an erroneous result since actually mdE-Edm=0.

So since d(mE)=0 is wrong it LOGICALLY means that

d(mE)!=0 (not equal zero; C/C++ notation) is "correct".

This is also an experimentally observed fact of the Universe.

d(mE)!=0 means that the change in mE is not zero. Or mE changes.

Specifically, "mE always changes"==Virdy's law.

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End of derivations. Discussion and speculation follows...

What is mE? Besides the english "ME", mE is mass times energy.

<mE> is the "mean Me", just joking...

<mE> is a product of the Universe. My Mom told "me" so.

Dimensionally mE is momentum squared. Verify by yourself. Oh alright,

I'll do it. (kg)(J)=(kg)(N)(m)=(kg)(kg)(m/s^2)(m)=[(kg)(m/s)]^2.

If momentum changes then, it changes due to an applied force.

Newton's second law. |force>=|d(mv)/dt>. Dirac's notation on vectors.

|force>=|d(momentum)/dt>

So what? Be patient. Apply Newton's rule to get

|force>=|d(sqrt(mE))/dt>.

A real equation for a "hypothetical" force which acts across time. New

idea (at least to <mE>).

Time. Force. TimeForce. Just for the sound of it: Force Across Ti<ME>.

A force across different slices of time? That's crazy... is it really?

Therefore, next time you see E=mc^2 think "2 c <mE>" Virdy's law. Or

just say "mE always changes" and there's a force causing the change.

"May the |force>=|<mE>force> be with you alwa(y)s."

As proof of "me always changes", when you think of <me>, think of:

1) A caterpillar's incredible transformation into a butterfly...

2) The matter*energy product of all our shining suns...

3) You, from even before your moment of conception, until NOW...

Copyright 1994. All rights reserved.

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\ / \ always changes. The laws of Nature permitting.

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Enjo(y)... Cheers!

--

Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple" leads to... Maple Loops.

http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

"If the line between science fiction and science fact

doesn't drive you crazy, then you're not tr(y)ing!"