Date: Feb 5, 2013 4:18 AM Author: JT Subject: Re: Which naturals better? On 5 Feb, 09:06, Musatov <marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 4, 11:12 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > On 5 Feb, 07:43, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > > On 5 Feb, 04:30, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > > > On 4 Feb, 11:02, Frederick Williams <freddywilli...@btinternet.com>

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> > > > > JT wrote:

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> > > > > > Building new natural numbers without zero using NyaN, in any base,

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> > > > > You seem to confuse numbers and digits. Both of these are true:

> > > > > There is a number zero.

> > > > > Numbers can be symbolized without the digit zero.

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> > > > > When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by

> > > > > this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.

> > > > > Jonathan Swift: Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting

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> > > > No there is no zero in my list of naturals, in my list is each natural

> > > > number a discrete ***items***, ***entity*** with a magnitude.

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> > > Sorry a single natural is a single entity or item with a certain

> > > magnitude, the numbers is counted in forming sets.

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> > base 10 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1)+(1,1,1,1) is the base form isn't all numbers

> > but 1 identities? You just happen to knwow the concept of 7 and 4 or?

> > In my math ()+(1,1,1,1) is not an evaluations you simply strike out

> > the empty set.

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> > When it comes to fractions you only need to know the numberic

> > placeholder for precurring zeros.

> > Base 3

> > 1/3=,1

> > 1/9=,(2)1

> > 1/27=,(3)1

> > 2/3=,2

> > 2/9=,(2)2

> > 2/27=,(3)2

Musatov can you help me out with the algorithm to make bases without

one, i am a bit stuck. And i will probably have to start all with

script if nobody can see the obvious way to change the script to

reflect NyaN bases.

I think i detected the problem but i am not sure howto solve it, and

since there is no break in javascript my changes hangs without giving

me feedback i would need a debugger line for line like old Pascal.

Basicly 9 in base three encodes to 1*9+0*3+0*1= 100 but in NyaN it

encodes to 2*3+3*1=23.

Example decimal 9=9 subtrahend i must divide subtrahend/bas, and now

i need take subtrahend-bas until decimal equals bas.

But since subtrahend is set in loop by multiple and bas it gets very

messy.

(****i think google put in linebreaks or hidden characters you better

get code below from http://www.facebook.com/jonas.thornvall

<HTML>

<SCRIPT language=Javascript>

function anybase(bas,decimal) {

multip=0;

basemultip=1;

unr=0;

basestr="";

subtrahend=0;

while (basemultip<decimal){

basemultip=basemultip*bas;

multip=multip+1;

}

while (decimal>0){

unr++;

set=0;

for(i=bas;i>0;i--){

subtrahend=basemultip*i;

document.write(subtrahend+"="+basemultip+"* (i)"+i+"<BR>");

if (decimal>=subtrahend) {

document.write("decimal"+decimal+"-subtra"+subtrahend);

decimal=decimal-subtrahend;

document.write("="+decimal+"<BR>")

set=1;

basestr=basestr+i+",";

}

}

if(set==0 && decimal!=0)basestr=basestr+0+",";

basemultip=basemultip/bas;

}

while (multip>=unr){

basestr=basestr+0+",";

unr++;

}

document.write("basestr "+basestr+"<BR>");

}

anybase(3,9);

</SCRIPT>

<HTML>