```Date: Feb 5, 2013 4:18 AM
Author: JT
Subject: Re: Which naturals better?

On 5 Feb, 09:06, Musatov <marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Feb 4, 11:12 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> > On 5 Feb, 07:43, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:>> > > On 5 Feb, 04:30, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:>> > > > On 4 Feb, 11:02, Frederick Williams <freddywilli...@btinternet.com>> > > > wrote:>> > > > > JT wrote:>> > > > > > Building new natural numbers without zero using NyaN, in any base,> > > > > > [...]>> > > > > You seem to confuse numbers and digits.  Both of these are true:> > > > > There is a number zero.> > > > > Numbers can be symbolized without the digit zero.>> > > > > --> > > > > When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by> > > > > this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.> > > > > Jonathan Swift: Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting>> > > > No there is no zero in my list of naturals, in my list is each natural> > > > number a discrete ***items***, ***entity*** with a magnitude.>> > > Sorry a single natural is a single entity or item with a certain> > > magnitude, the numbers is counted in forming sets.>> > base 10 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1)+(1,1,1,1) is the base form isn't all numbers> > but 1 identities? You just happen to knwow the concept of 7 and 4 or?> > In my math ()+(1,1,1,1) is not an evaluations you simply strike out> > the empty set.>> > When it comes to fractions you only need to know the numberic> > placeholder for precurring zeros.> > Base 3> > 1/3=,1> > 1/9=,(2)1> > 1/27=,(3)1> > 2/3=,2> > 2/9=,(2)2> > 2/27=,(3)2Musatov can you help me out with the algorithm to make bases withoutone, i am a bit stuck. And i will probably have to start all withscript if nobody can see the obvious way to change the script toreflect NyaN bases.I think i detected the problem but i am not sure howto solve it, andsince there is no break in javascript my changes hangs without givingme feedback i would need a debugger line for line like old Pascal.Basicly 9 in base three encodes to 1*9+0*3+0*1= 100 but in NyaN itencodes to 2*3+3*1=23.Example  decimal 9=9 subtrahend i must divide subtrahend/bas, and nowi need take subtrahend-bas until decimal equals bas.But since subtrahend is set in loop by multiple and bas it gets verymessy.(****i think google put in linebreaks or hidden characters you betterget code below from http://www.facebook.com/jonas.thornvall<HTML><SCRIPT language=Javascript>function anybase(bas,decimal) {multip=0;basemultip=1;unr=0;basestr="";subtrahend=0;while (basemultip<decimal){   basemultip=basemultip*bas;   multip=multip+1;}while (decimal>0){unr++;set=0;    for(i=bas;i>0;i--){       subtrahend=basemultip*i;       document.write(subtrahend+"="+basemultip+"* (i)"+i+"<BR>");       if (decimal>=subtrahend) {           document.write("decimal"+decimal+"-subtra"+subtrahend);           decimal=decimal-subtrahend;           document.write("="+decimal+"<BR>")           set=1;           basestr=basestr+i+",";   }}if(set==0 && decimal!=0)basestr=basestr+0+",";basemultip=basemultip/bas;}while (multip>=unr){      basestr=basestr+0+",";      unr++;}document.write("basestr "+basestr+"<BR>");}anybase(3,9);</SCRIPT><HTML>
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