Date: Feb 11, 2013 4:46 AM
Author: Alan Smaill
Subject: Re: Matheology § 210
WM <mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de> writes:

> On 8 Feb., 23:05, Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:

>> In article

>> <43d2d64e-7641-4f96-bbe6-59fe20991...@e11g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,

>>

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>> WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:

>> > On 8 Feb., 12:13, Alan Smaill <sma...@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

>> > > WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> writes:

>> > > > On 7 Feb., 20:17, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > > ...

>> > > >> In classical set theory the accessible numbers are listable

>>

>> > > >> Note from the Wikipedia quote

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>> > > >> > Constructively it is consistent to assert the

>> > > >> > subcountability of some uncountable collections

>>

>> > > > Of course, the intuitionists accepted this nonsense, perhaps forced by

>> > > > the matheologians.

>>

>> > > What a joker!

>>

>> > > You tell us that you do not know Brouwer's opinion on this question,

>> > > but here you are telling us what intuitionists accept.

>>

>> > I know Brouwer's opinion very well But I do not discuss with you about

>> > that opinionb because you turn every word in my mouth.

>>

>> That words seem to turn in WM's mouth does not man that anyone other

>> than WM himself is responsible for such turnings.

>>

>> > > WM is inconsistent.

>>

>> > > As for intuitionists being "forced" into taking up a

>> > > position inconsistent with classical mathematics by classical

>> > > mathematicians ...

>> > > a classic absurdity.

>>

>> > No. Hilbert fired Brouwer from his most prestigious position with the

>> > Annalen.

>>

>> How would that force Brouwer into taking up a position INCONSISTENT with

>> classical mathematics?

>

> Vice versa. Brouwer had a position inconsistent with Hilbert's

> mathematics. Therefore he was fired.

And stuck to his position.

His position was therefore not the result of pressure from Hilbert

or others.

>

> Regards, WQM

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Alan Smaill