Date: Apr 1, 2013 2:56 PM
Author: fom
Subject: Re: Mathematics and the Roots of Postmodern Thought
On 4/1/2013 12:36 PM, david petry wrote:

> On Monday, April 1, 2013 2:25:31 AM UTC-7, Dan wrote:

>

>> On Apr 1, 7:20 am, david petry <david_lawrence_pe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>>> Applied mathematicians know they have to produce something

> that is of use to the scientists, which does imply that they

> are taking falsifiability into consideration.

>

>

>> Real mathematicians do their own thing

>

> Are you suggesting that applied mathematicians are not real mathematicians?

>

>

>> Scientists take the mathematics given to

>> them [...] and use it to build theories

>

> Revisionist history? A huge amount of mathematics was developed by scientists

> simply because they needed it, and then the mathematicians took it and

> added their own bells and whistles.

>

History is a somewhat "wobbly" concept in this

regard, is it not?

The profession of "scientist" evolved in the

nineteenth century in conjunction with trends

such as industrialization, globalization, and

a mercantile imperialism.

So who is claimed by whom will not really

depend on fact as much as the fiction of

how a partial accounting of some individual's

accomplishments fit into some narrow history

accounting for some specific subject matter.

The practical motivation for using and developing

mathematics should not be minimized.

Nor should the demands of critics who forced

philosophical investigation of the practices

so introduced.

If, however, you wish to subtract the "bells

and whistles" then you should begin by

identifying which of the historical criticisms

"mathematicians" should have ignored.