Date: Apr 6, 2013 1:06 PM
Author: namducnguyen
Subject: Re: Matheology § 224
On 06/04/2013 10:48 AM, Nam Nguyen wrote:

> On 05/04/2013 12:20 AM, fom wrote:

>> On 4/5/2013 12:57 AM, Nam Nguyen wrote:

>>> On 04/04/2013 10:55 PM, fom wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Who knows what is and what is not -- even

>>>> in the simple realm of mathematics -- claims

>>>> a certain knowledge that is revealed rather

>>>> than discerned.

>>>

>>> So, since Godel, is the knowledge of the natural numbers

>>> a revealed or discerned one?

>>>

>>> Revealed by whom? Discerned from what?

>>>

>>

>> I thought you claimed to be a relativist. ???

>

> I am, by at least the 3rd Principle "Principle of Symmetry (of

> Non-Logicality)" mentioned in:

>

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/20bb0e7c183ae502?hl=en

>

>>

>> The history of mathematical logic is entwined

>> with a philosophical perspective that is collapsing

>> from its own analyses. Goedel argued for

>> idealism and platonism. That is not the logicism,

>> logical positivism, or predicativism that tried

>> to ground mathematics on the basis of realism

>> and otherwise characterized the era in which he

>> worked.

>

> So why do people react negatively with the _logical notion_ that the

> concept of the natural numbers Godel used is a relativistic concept?

I mean, it's fine that Godel _believed_ in "idealism and platonism" and

what not, as people would tend to so think, but why do people react

negatively whenever it's pointed out that his work isn't a

_mathematical logic_ work?

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