Date: Feb 15, 2014 6:06 PM
Author: kirby urner
Subject: Re: Masters of psycho-babble and edu-speak

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Robert Hansen <> wrote:

> On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:51 AM, kirby urner <> wrote:

> > How so "master something"? Are we talking about the same notion of
> "Cascadia"?
> >
> >
> >
> > It's your typical latent national identity archetype, a "Stan" (as in

> Kurdistan) that doesn't quite get the recognition it'd get as a "real
> place". The world is full of such "ghost" (as in "virtual") nations.
> Recognition for what? We are talking about the same "Cascadia" and the
> same principles of nationalism. I was just pointing out that the drivers
> behind (Cascadia's) secession are similar to the drivers behind master race
> or any other "is better" argument.
> Bob Hansen

Recognition for being a sovereign nation of course, but as Wikipedia makes
clear, only some Cascadians have a secessionist narrative whereas most are
simply looking forward to that "multi-polar world" we've been promised,
post the Cold War ("bipolar") era (aka "old world order").

I don't think it's useful to conflate every form a "team spirit" (company
spirit, school spirit) to the same ideological basis. The social Darwinism
practiced by National Socialists stemmed from pseudo-genetic theories
promulgated by Social Darwinists such as Galton.

Policies of forced sterilization were rolled out in the US, as billboards
encouraged families to consider their Eugenic heritage, but these
pseudo-scientific fantasies achieved their more demented and psychopathic
form in the white-coated medical establishments of the Nazis, where the
search for an "Aryan substance" in the blood was superstitiously sought,
the holy grail for a Nazi PhD or MD at one time.


PS: I believe I'm accurately reading the Cascadian mindset when I say
there's excitement about remotely piloted vehicles, which have been
exhibited at OSCON (quad-copter especially, Clojure controlled), but the
weaponization of same for the purpose of man-slaughter, other crimes, has
not been publicly endorsed or approved of by the Cascadian people. DC
carries out such Nazi-like policies in its own name, not in ours, and we
let the victims of drone attacks know how we (and most of the
civilized world) see the issue (but of course we're not allowed to sign
treaties). We don't support Gitmo either.