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            <title>RE: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655095&amp;tstart=0#7655095</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[While physics and math certainly share a lot, they are not one and the same.<br>For example units are absolutely essential in physics, but in math]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 8:17:04 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>clement@hal-pc.org</jf:author>
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            <title>Re: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655088&amp;tstart=0#7655088</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[OK Back to Basics. . . . But  this really should be known to this audience.<br><br>The CCI has its origins in the FCI (in physics) which, over a]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 7:54:59 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>jerepst@att.net</jf:author>
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            <title>Re: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655087&amp;tstart=0#7655087</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[Unfortunately John, and this is what brought me into these discussions (and across the FCI), many high school classes are doing just that. I am not]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 7:52:08 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>syscore</jf:author>
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            <title>RE: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655054&amp;tstart=0#7655054</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[I would second that, as the FCI or FMCE are not used as a final exame.  But<br>they are given near the end of the course.  Sometimes they are]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 6:42:25 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>clement@hal-pc.org</jf:author>
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            <title>Re: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655052&amp;tstart=0#7655052</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[And Jerry, I made the mistake in reply to this<br><br>The flaw is that an inventory test is no substitute for a full blown calculus or physics exam.]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 6:37:36 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>ewall@umich.edu</jf:author>
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            <title>Re: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655050&amp;tstart=0#7655050</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[Jerry, I am afraid that you fell victim to Ed's twisting.:)<br><br>I said that in order for you to compare the efficacy of IE methods to traditional]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 6:30:03 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>syscore</jf:author>
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            <title>Re: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655044&amp;tstart=0#7655044</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[I am  baffled. I thought I was quite explicit multiple times.<br><br>THE CCI IS IN NO WAY A SUBSTITUTE FOR A FINAL EXAM IN CALCULUS.<br><br>It was]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 6:14:39 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>jerepst@att.net</jf:author>
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            <title>Re: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7655000&amp;tstart=0#7655000</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[Bob<br><br>      Then let me 'twist' further. <br><br>     (1) I don't think your requests are unreasonable ('simple', however, can be a loaded word]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 3:59:51 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>ewall@umich.edu</jf:author>
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            <title>Re: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7654954&amp;tstart=0#7654954</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[I am not sure what population we checked this with, or in fact whether <br>someone else did this, but we found that the normalized gain was]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 2:05:29 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>jerepst@att.net</jf:author>
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            <title>RE: [math-learn] FCI and CCI in China #2</title>
        
            <link>http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?messageID=7654910&amp;tstart=0#7654910</link>

        

            <description><![CDATA[The normalized gain does not confuse the issue, but rather it is just a<br>different way to look at the results.  It doesn't change the results.]]></description>

        

            <jf:creationDate>Jan 27, 2012 1:33:30 PM</jf:creationDate>
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            <jf:author>clement@hal-pc.org</jf:author>
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