As I am in an environment where I use something like a 'SET' at times and something like Concept Inventories at times (for fun I will call them CIs), I find myself wondering just what is a 'good' evaluation of 'teaching.' For instance, given Gary Fenstermacher's thoughtful analysis of teaching and studenting, it seems unlikely that a CI measures other than learning. Nonetheless, one might argue that a CI gives a perspective from the side of learning on teaching and one might argue that a SET gives a perspective on teaching from the side of studenting (which includes learning, by the way). The interesting question (and the vice versa) is, of course, what can/do SETs capture than CIs miss as, judging from my experience (and, yes, I'm opinionated - smile), the affective has a substantial impact on the cognitive (see, for instance, Fiumara).

Oddly, I'm reasonably okay with a statement such as "I know good teaching when I see it" versus a statement such as "I know good teaching when I see a CI score).

Ed Wall

On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Richard Hake wrote:

> Some subscribers to Math-Learn might be interested in a recent post
> "The Value of Student Evaluations of Teaching" [Hake (2012)]. The
> abstract reads:
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> ABSTRACT: Bill Brescia of the DrEd list wrote: "We are looking for
> best practices to solicit student feedback on the teaching quality of
> individual faculty members where in some cases a fairly large number
> of faculty are involved in a single course. What mechanism do you use
> to survey the students?"
> The value of student evaluations is a hotly contested topic, witness
> the 496,000 hits at <> generated by a Google
> search for "Student Evaluations" (with the quotes) on 26 Nov 2012
> 12:58-0800.
> Judging from my own experience, and after careful consideration of
> the above hits, my opinion is that:
> a. Student Evaluations of Teaching (SET's) are useful for gauging
> the *affective* impact of teaching, but are worse than useless for
> gauging the *cognitive* impact - see e.g. "Student Evaluations of
> Teaching Are Not Valid Gauges of Teaching Performance - Yet Again!"
> [Hake (2012)] at <>
> b. The cognitive impact of teaching is best measured by average
> normalized pre-to-post-test gains on "Concept Inventories"
> <> - see e.g., "The
> Impact of Concept Inventories On Physics Education and It's Relevance
> For Engineering Education" [Hake (2011)] at <>.
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> Hake, R.R. 2012. "The Value of Student Evaluations of Teaching"
> online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at <>. Post
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