With no apologies for cross posting - see e.g. "Cross-Posting -

Synergistic or Sinful?" [Hake (2005)].

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In response to my post "Do We Learn All the Math We Need For Ordinary

Life Before 5th_Grade?" [Hake (2013)], math guru

http://bit.ly/Xbd0ye> Dave Renfro (2013a) in his Math-Teach post

wrote [bracketed by lines "RRRR. . . "; slightly edited; my insert

at ". . . .[[insert]]. . . . "]:

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In my previous post "Do We Learn All the Math We Need For Ordinary

Life Before 5th_Grade?" [Renfro (2013b)] I wrote:

". . . the fact that Hans Ohanian, author of "Einstein's Mistakes"

[Ohanian (2009)], thought to recommend Courant's book to his wife,

literature major Susan Ohanian http://www.susanohanian.org>, strikes

me as really naive and out-of-touch. I'd like to say I'm stunned to

find that a Ph.D. in physics would think Courant's book was

appropriate for her, but unfortunately I'm not."

It occurs to me that it's easy to make a hit-and-run criticism like

this, and a bit difficult to offer an appropriate alternative. To

this end, I think the following books would have worked better for

her:

1. Silvanus Phillips Thompson, "Calculus Made Easy", 2nd edition, 1914. FREE at

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/33283/33283-pdf.pdf>.

2. David Berlinski, "A Tour of the Calculus", 1997.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0679747885>

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I reference "A Tour of the Calculus" [Berlinski (1997)] in my post

"Do We Learn All the Math We Need For Ordinary Life Before 5th Grade?"

In my opinion, some other calculus texts (had they been available at

the time) that might have worked better than Courant's book [e.g.

Courant & John (1998)] for Susan Ohanian are:

3. "Calculus: An Intuitive and Physical Approach" Kline (1998).

4. "Basic Calculus: From Archimedes to Newton to it's Role in

Science" [Hahn (1998).

5. "Applied Calculus" [Hughes-Hallett et al. (2009)].

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University

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"Mathematics is the gate and key of the sciences. . . .Neglect of

mathematics works injury to all knowledge, since he who is ignorant

of it cannot know the other sciences or the things of this world. And

what is worse, men who are thus ignorant are unable to perceive their

own ignorance and so do not seek a remedy."

Roger Bacon (Opus Majus, bk. 1, ch. 4) http://bit.ly/dzjbWv>

REFERENCES [URL shortened by http://bit.ly/> and accessed on 15 Jan 2013.]

Berlinski, D. 1997. "Tour of the Calculus." Random House, publisher's

information at http://bit.ly/ZLSHJo>. Amazon.com information at

http://amzn.to/11sZIUv>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.

An expurgated Google book preview is online at http://bit.ly/UI4kPC>.

Courant, R. & F. John. 1998. "Introduction to Calculus and Analysis,"

Vol. 1, Springer, originally published in 1965. Amazon.com

information at http://amzn.to/MqvtkP> note the searchable "Look

Inside" feature.

Hahn, A.J. 1998. "Basic Calculus: From Archimedes to Newton to it's

Role in Science." Springer. Amazon.com information at

http://amzn.to/LaakMh>. For a review see the late physicist David

Halliday (1999).

Hake, R.R. 2005. "Cross-Posting - Synergistic or Sinful?" Post of 1

Nov 2005 08:37:12-0800 to

ITFORUM and AERA-L. Online at on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at

http://bit.ly/arFlkd>.

Hake, R.R. 2013. "Do We Learn All the Math We Need For Ordinary Life

Before 5th Grade?" online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at

http://bit.ly/10sYmKl>. Post of 13 Jan 2013 16:52:01-0800 to AERA-L

and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the complete post are being

transmitted to several discussion lists and are also on my blog

"Hake'sEdStuff" at http://bit.ly/RQkucu> with a provision for

comments.

Halliday, D. 1999. Review of Hahn (1998), Phys. Today 52(4): 74;

online to subscribers at

http://bit.ly/LbalBm>. Halliday wrote:

"The author, a professor of mathematics at the University of Notre

Dame, has used this book in a two-semester calculus sequence 'for

arts and letters honors students' and a one-semester course of

'elementary applications of the calculus for regular arts and letters

students and architecture majors.' It seems to me that the book is

very suitable for such courses. It is perhaps less suitable for a

course in which the aim is to learn calculus as a tool and the desire

is 'to get on with it,' without exploring historical byways."

Hughes-Hallett, D., P.F. Lock, A.M. Gleason, D.E. Flath, S.P. Gordon,

D.O. Lomen, D. Lovelock, W.G. McCallum, B.G. Osgood, A. Pasquale, J.

Tecosky-Feldman, J. Thrash, K.R. Rhea, & T.W. Tucker. 2009. "Applied

Calculus." Wiley, fourth edition, publisher's information at

http://bit.ly/Kl2qQz> Amazon.com information at

http://amzn.to/KiDnvH>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.

For other books by Hughes-Hallett, et al. see http://amzn.to/HWUcQV>.

Kline, M. 1998. "Calculus: An Intuitive and Physical Approach."

Dover. Amazon.com information at http://amzn.to/LsOYKC>, note the

searchable "Look Inside" feature. First published in 1967.

Ohanian. H.C. 2009. "Einstein's Mistakes: The Human Failings of

Genius." W.W. Norton, publisher's information at

http://bit.ly/13quVq3.>. Amazon.com information at

http://amzn.to/11qwxlb>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.

See also Weinberg (2005).

Renfro, D.L. 2013a. "Re: Do We Learn All the Math We Need For

Ordinary Life Before 5th Grade?" online on the OPEN! Math-Teach

archives at http://bit.ly/V2aR9q>. Post of 15 Jan 10:23 AM (the

MathForum fails to specfy the time zone).

Renfro, D.L. 2013b. " Do We Learn All the Math We Need For Ordinary

Life Before 5th Grade?" online on the OPEN! Math-Teach archives at

http://bit.ly/W4bLB5>. Post of 14 Jan 4:27 PM (the MathForum fails

to specfy the time zone).

Weinberg, S. 2005. "Einstein's Mistakes: Science sets itself apart

from other paths to truth by recognizing that even its greatest

practitioners sometimes err," Physics Today, November, pp. 31-35;

online as a 336 kB pdf at http://bit.ly/VSyoLL>>

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