On May 29, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Haim wrote:

No matter what you think of Paul's arguments (and you have made your thoughts pretty clear on this point), he wins and you lose, so far as the public debate goes, and so far as any hope goes for substantial, permanent, beneficial change in the policies and practices of public education in America.

Wins what?

I didn't enter this debate to win some fictitious debating contest. I have more riding on this. I win when my son wins.

Bob Hansen