On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:01 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually my thinking is quite self-consistent and disciplined
according to David Feinstein, Applied Mathematician.  He likes that
about me.

Religions are consistent. Crazy people are consistent. Consistency is not a sufficient criteria for formal reasoning. By chance, did this Feinstein fellow say something like "Well, at least you are consistent."?

I teach logical thinking for a living one could say. To hundreds. 

Formal reasoning is different than formal logic, if that is what you are saying.

think my rhetoric is really top notch, one of the fastest horses on
the track (some days).

How would you rate the rhetoric of some of the best con men? I'll stick with formal reasoning.

Bob Hansen