I have forgotten details but I remember a Philadelphia, inner-city high school where the valedictorian had a 4.0 (maybe higher) with an SAT score at least 200 points lower than that.  Absolute disconnect and almost guaranteed failure at any reputable institution of higher learning in any genuine academic discipline.

Wayne

At 04:31 AM 6/29/2013, Robert Hansen wrote:

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I would say the majority of colleges, public included. Florida weights =
the GPA depending on Honors/AP classes. Florida's Bright Futures =
scholarship program is based on this weighting.  Mind you, the weight is =
based on the class grade, not the AP exam score. However, just recently =
they upped the SAT requirements because, well because they had to. They =
ran out of money. Of course, the usual groups are protesting. Instead of =
an 1170 SAT requirement, they want the requirement to be 970 as long as =
the student has a 4.0 average.

In our day, what would our reaction have been to a 4.0 average and a 970 =
SAT score? It is amazing how screwed up things got.

College education is the new JUNK BOND.

Bob Hansen





On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Wayne Bishop <wbishop@calstatela.edu> =
wrote:

> It isn't just the jumpstart and money saved for college, however; =
there is another practical consideration=85 Getting into selective =
colleges.  Too often, college admissions folks put more weight on seeing =
them (even using a 5-1 GPA rather than 4-0 for A-F) and it can be a damn =
lie.


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I = would say the majority of colleges, public included. Florida weights the = GPA depending on Honors/AP classes. Florida's Bright Futures scholarship = program is based on this weighting.  Mind you, the weight is based = on the class grade, not the AP exam score. However, just recently they = upped the SAT requirements because, well because they had to. They ran = out of money. Of course, the usual groups are protesting. Instead of an = 1170 SAT requirement, they want the requirement to be 970 as long as the = student has a 4.0 average.

In our day, what would our = reaction have been to a 4.0 average and a 970 SAT score? It is amazing = how screwed up things got.

College education is = the new JUNK BOND.

Bob = Hansen





On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Wayne Bishop <wbishop@calstatela.edu> = wrote:

It isn't just the jumpstart and money saved for college, however; = there is another practical consideration=85 Getting into selective = colleges.  Too often, college admissions folks put more weight on = seeing them (even using a 5-1 GPA rather than 4-0 for A-F) and it can be = a damn = lie.


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