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Richard Hake

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Math Education Research Doesn't Exist? Response to Schremmer
Posted: Nov 6, 2012 5:31 PM
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Some subscribers to Math-Teach might be interested in a recent post
"Math Education Research Doesn't Exist? Response to Schremmer" [Hake
(2012)]. The abstract reads:

ABSTRACT: MathEdCC's Alain Schremmer at <> opined
that: (a) research in mathematics education does not exist; (b)
physics cannot be taught as lecture only; (c) Hake (2002b) at
<> disagreed with Greeno (2002a) at
<> because Hake is unfamiliar with math education
and thinks its problems are similar to those in physics education.

I argue in opposition to the above that:

(a) Research in mathematics education *does* exist, see e.g., the 18
entries preceded by double asterisks ** in the REFERENCE list of my
*complete* post at <>.

(b) Physics *has been* taught essentially as lecture only (where
*taught* does not mean *learned*), witness the fourteen "traditional"
(T) courses (N = 2084) in Hake (1998a) at <>.

(c) I disagreed with Greeno, *not* because of my unfamiliarity math
education, but because Greeno denounced as "glibly superficial and
badly unknowing about the nature of science" the six guiding
principles suggested in "Scientific Research in Education" at
<>, as underlying all education research; whereas
I think those principles *are* consistent with the nature of science
as I have experienced it and as has been explained by Ziman (2002) at

To access the complete 21 kB post please click on <>.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
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"He . . . .[or she]. . . . that wrestles with us strengthens our
nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper."
Edmund Burke (1790)

REFERENCES [URL shortened by <> and accessed on 06 Nov 2012.]
Burke, E. 1790. "Reflections on the Revolution in France." Available
as a 2006 edition by Dover; information at
<>. Online at <> thanks to
McMaster University, See also the Wikipedia entry at

Hake, R.R. 2012. "Math Education Research Doesn't Exist? Response to
Schremmer," online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at
<>. Post of 6 Nov 2012 11:12:48-0800 to AERA-L
and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the complete post are being
transmitted to several discussion lists and are also on my blog
"Hake'sEdStuff" at <> with a provision for

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