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Topic: Clock puzzle
Replies: 9   Last Post: Nov 26, 2004 9:48 AM

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 Jacques Posts: 35 Registered: 12/4/04
Re: Clock puzzle
Posted: Nov 26, 2004 9:48 AM

Another way to look at this (for clarity consider the case when the
hands coincide):
Case of the hour and minute hand:
For the hour and minute hand to coincide the first time the minute
hand must have traveled 1 revolution and the same 'bit' the hour hand
traveled,ie:
12x-x=1 (x is the 'distance' from the starting point; the minute hand
does 12 revolutions for 1 revolution of the hour hand)
ie x=1/11.
If we use the minute markings of the clock (viz 60) the minute and
hour hands coincide for the first time on the 60*1/11 mark, that is
The general formula is cx-x=k, that is x=k/(c-1) or x=k/11 where c is
the 'conversion' factor (12 in the case of the minute and hour hand),
k the number of revolutions and x the mark then where they coincide.
This gives 11 positions where the minute and the hour hand coincide,
ie eleven evenly spaced dots around the circumference of the clock
with the 11th one on the 12h mark.
In the same way the formula for the minute and second hands to
coincide is x=k/59 as the conversion factor here is 60. Therefore 59
evenly spaced dots around the circumference with the 59th dot at the
12h mark.
As 11 is not a factor of 59 it is clear that the only place the dots
correspond is at the 12h mark, the original starting point.
As a check: The case of the second and hour hands gives the formula
x=k/719, 719 evenly spaced dots.the coversion factor being 720.
Again, as neither 59 nor 11 is a factor of 719 the only coincide at
the starting point (which occurs every 12 hours).

Incidentally, this is also a method to effect equal mantissas when
converting different units, eg 1.97740113 gallons (English) equals
8.97704113 litres. (4.54 litres to the gallon)

Date Subject Author
11/2/04 Earle Jones
11/2/04 Aliaksei
11/2/04 philippe 92
11/2/04 philippe 92
11/2/04 mark
11/2/04 Earle Jones
11/23/04 MARSHY
11/23/04 Philippe 92
11/25/04 Bill Smythe
11/26/04 Jacques