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Topic: Re: Informal Science/Math Education - Correction
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Richard Hake

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From: Woodland Hills, CA 91367
Registered: 12/4/04
Re: Informal Science/Math Education - Correction
Posted: Aug 5, 2005 11:42 PM
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In a previous post "Informal Science/Math Education" [Hake (2005)],
I wrote [bracketed by lines "HHHHHHHH. . . ."]:

In my opinion ISE might:
. . . . . . . . . .
(b) help propagate innovative educational ideas such as those
discussed by Benezet (1935/36), Fawcett (1938), Arons (see Hake
2004), Lederman (2001), Urner (2003), Kamin (2003), and Allsopp
. . . . . . . . . ."

The reference to Urner (2003) was incorrectly given as:

"Urner, K. 2003. "An Alien Curriculum," Math-Teach post of 14 Jan
2003 23:47:08 -0800; evidently expunged from the Math-Teach archives
<>, but for a
comment on Urner's cogent post see Hake (2003b)."

Gene Klotz of the Math Forum has kindly informed me that:

(a) the Math Forum only expunges spam,

(b) his colleague Richard Tchen has located Urner's post by searching
for the exact phrase "alien curriculum" (with the quotes) at

I found Urner (2003) by following Tchen's recipe and then clicking on
"Show all results within this topic" under hit #5.

The correct reference is as given in REFERENCES below.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367

Hake, R.R. 2005. "Informal Science/Math Education," online at
<>. Post
of Aug 5, 2005 1:34 PM to AERA-L, AERA-C, AERA-K, ASSESS, EvalTalk,
Math-Teach, & Math-Learn.

Urner, K. 2003. "Another Alien Curriculum," Math-Teach post of 14 Jan
2003 23:47:08-0800; online at
<>. For a
comment on Urner's cogent post see Hake (2003b)."

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