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Wayne Bishop

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Re: Electronic Math
Posted: Jul 14, 1998 10:50 AM
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Good suggestion, Richard. I'll see what I can dig up. Please do the same.
Polytechnic's students are stronger in grade 11 or 12 than ours in college at
Cal State (generally speaking, of course) but calculus is calculus. Thanks,


At 09:49 AM 7/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>In response to this statement posted by Lin McMullin--
>">You can teach a better math course with one, than

>>without one. You can learn more with one, than without one."
>Wayne Bishop said,
>"This is completely illogical. Faith statements are appropriate in
>church, political rallies as well, maybe company pep-talks, but not in
>mathematics education. Show us the evidence - not tests designed to
>require them, of course, that's stacking the deck - conceptual calculus
>tests of say 15 years ago in which students now do better because they
>have learned more."
>Wayne, to jar our memories, would you please post a sample of a
>"conceptual calculus test" from about 15 years ago? And, please, do not
>send us an exam from a real analysis class for math majors or an exam
>from an "honors calculus" course at some top tier university (I mean the
>kind of course in which a few math majors are selected from among 30
>other very bright and eager others who were not quite ready for a real
>analysis course and are consequently unloaded on the math trash heap.)
>What we might enjoy is seeing an exam from a garden variety first
>college course in calculus. How about sending a copy of a typical first
>course final exam from your university? Maybe we all need a reminder of
>what we have lost.
>Richard Sisley

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