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when push comes to shove, the only way Special Relativity can be proven is by first assuming it is correct
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Oct 31, 2008 9:46 AM




Re: when push comes to shove, the only way Special Relativity can be proven is by first assuming it is correct
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Oct 9, 2008 3:29 PM


In article <4e86b0c01c31494aa9a47c28dba9759c@t18g2000prt.googlegroups.com>, strich.9993@gmail.com wrote:
> The premise was simple... > > Clocks E and M in inertial frames E and M are at rest with respect to > one another. The rate of clock E in frame E (E1) is by definition > equal to the clock rate of M in frame M (M1), or E1=M1. Let clock M > now move with respect to E, with relative constant velocity v. It is > easily shown that the new rate of the moving clock M in frame M (M2) > is equal to its old rate (M1), or M2=M1. It is also easily shown that > the new rate of clock E in frame E (E2) is equal to its old rate (E1), > or E2=E1. > > The obvious conclusion is that M2=E2. This disproves Special > Relativity (SR) since time becomes constant in any inertial frame. > > > Relativity physicists scramble for a 'scientific' defense. The > defenses are: > > 1) "It does not take into account the Lorentz transformation > equations". The LTE however assumes beforehand that SR is already > correct. > 2) "It disagrees with experiment." The experiment being the socalled > Muon experiment, which assumed that the premise of time dilation is > correct in its interpretation of the result. > 3) The last resort is to invoke General Relativity. This is like > proving a theorem A by invoking corollary A, which had followed from > the same theorem. > > When all these circular defenses are exposed, the relativists resort > to the their last options: > 1) Ad hominems > 2) Nonsequiturs > 3) Other 'trolling' techniques > > One would think that a supposedly solid theory as Einstein's Theories > of Relativity could mount up a better defense than that typically > employed by highly paid lawyers defending a losing client. > > Thanks.
No scientific theory can be proven, only supported by evidence. Special relativity is supported by a great deal of evidence. Also, whether special relativity is right or wrong it is mathematically selfconsistent. There are no mistakes in algebra, or logic. Sorry if you can't keep up, but generations of very good mathematicians have confirmed that there is nothing wrong with the math.



