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Topic: when push comes to shove, the only way Special Relativity can be
proven is by first assuming it is correct

Replies: 202   Last Post: Oct 31, 2008 9:46 AM

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 Matthew Lybanon Posts: 20 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: when push comes to shove, the only way Special Relativity can be proven is by first assuming it is correct
Posted: Oct 9, 2008 3:29 PM

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strich.9993@gmail.com wrote:

> The premise was simple...
>
> Clocks E and M in inertial frames E and M are at rest with respect to
> one another. The rate of clock E in frame E (E1) is by definition
> equal to the clock rate of M in frame M (M1), or E1=M1. Let clock M
> now move with respect to E, with relative constant velocity v. It is
> easily shown that the new rate of the moving clock M in frame M (M2)
> is equal to its old rate (M1), or M2=M1. It is also easily shown that
> the new rate of clock E in frame E (E2) is equal to its old rate (E1),
> or E2=E1.
>
> The obvious conclusion is that M2=E2. This disproves Special
> Relativity (SR) since time becomes constant in any inertial frame.
>
>
> Relativity physicists scramble for a 'scientific' defense. The
> defenses are:
>
> 1) "It does not take into account the Lorentz transformation
> equations". The LTE however assumes beforehand that SR is already
> correct.
> 2) "It disagrees with experiment." The experiment being the so-called
> Muon experiment, which assumed that the premise of time dilation is
> correct in its interpretation of the result.
> 3) The last resort is to invoke General Relativity. This is like
> proving a theorem A by invoking corollary A, which had followed from
> the same theorem.
>
> When all these circular defenses are exposed, the relativists resort
> to the their last options:
> 2) Non-sequiturs
> 3) Other 'trolling' techniques
>
> One would think that a supposedly solid theory as Einstein's Theories
> of Relativity could mount up a better defense than that typically
> employed by highly paid lawyers defending a losing client.
>
> Thanks.

No scientific theory can be proven, only supported by evidence. Special
relativity is supported by a great deal of evidence. Also, whether
special relativity is right or wrong it is mathematically
self-consistent. There are no mistakes in algebra, or logic. Sorry if
you can't keep up, but generations of very good mathematicians have
confirmed that there is nothing wrong with the math.

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