
Re: Iteration formula transformation
Posted:
Feb 10, 2009 7:24 PM


On Feb 10, 10:56 am, "alainvergh...@gmail.com" <alainvergh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9 fév, 06:32, Matt <matt271829n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > It's well known and straightforward that if f(x) = phi^1(1 + phi(x)) > > for some function phi, then f^n(x) = phi^1(n + phi(x)), where "f^n" > > denotes iteration of f. But say we have an expression for f^n that we > > found some other way and we know is a valid continuous function > > iteration, then how to recover phi? As an alternative to guessing the > > correct form followed by some trialanderror, I found > > > phi(x) = Integral dx/g(0,x) > > > where g(n,x) = d/dn f^n(x). > > > Probably nothing new, but kind of cute I thought. > > Bonjour Matt, > > With smooth functions from phi(f^[r](x)=phi(x)+r , r real > we've got d/dr f^[r](x) = phi'(x)* d/dx f^[r](x). > There are other relations: > f^[r](x) = exp(1/phi'(x)* d/dx ) O x
Bonjour Alain, I don't understand your notation here. What does "d/dx" by itself mean? What does "O x" mean?
> phi^1(L)= f^[Lphi(x)](x) = c constant, > Example f(x) = 2*x +1 > phi^1(L)= (2x+1)^[Lphi(x)] = c ,constant > 2^(Lphi(x))*(x+1)1 = c > all done phi(x) = ln(x+1)/ln(x) + k ,any ct. > > ISOLATING POWER r in g(r,x) : > Ex. g(r,x) = 5^r*x/(1+(5^r1)*x) > 5^r*x/(x1) = gr/(gr1) and a little later : > ln(gr/(gr1))/ln(5) = ln(x/(x1))/ln(5) + r > So phi(x) = ln(x/(x1))/ln(5) counts iterations of > f(x) = g(1,x)=5x/(1+4*x) > > Alain

