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Topic: Re: Time for Moderation
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Re: Time for Moderation
Posted: Aug 2, 2000 8:39 PM
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Wayne Bishop <> Wrote on
Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:15:55 -0700
At 01:34 PM 8/2/00 -0700, Rebecca <> wrote:
>I'm sure it's pure coincidence that they are

i. all mathematics professors,
ii. have no K-12 teaching experience,
iii. are all affiliated with Mathematically Correct ...

Very clever Wayne, but you left out

iv. all signed the letter/ad opposing the Department of Education's
exemplary math programs.


v. most played some other role in writing or reviewing California's
math standards, framework , augmented test or approving providers
of professional development.

For i., that is exactly the intent of the SBE, to confirm up-front
that the grade-level content standards and mathematical coherence
are met by utilizing the services of professional mathematicians.

Basically correct, but they could be PhDs who are "professional
math educators" and there are none. The point is that there would
be more perceived fairness if they weren't of the same mind (identified
with i - v).

Although irrelevant, statement ii. is flatly false.

Fine, please tell us more about their K-12 experience. The fact
they are also "professional mathematicians" would seem to contradict
that they have substantial K-12 experience.

And since there are no dues and no official membership list,
will you please explain what "affiliated" means? I am pleased
that some of my writings are posted at the MC website but others
of the list have nothing posted, have never been to an MC get-together,
etc. Is accessing the website sufficient?
There might be people on the list who fail even at that so please

Gladly. Since very few (maybe five) identify themselves as a
founder, co-founder or member of Mathematically Correct on their
Web site, the next closest thing are those people who have posted
a document or signed any or all Mathematically Correct letters
or petitions posted on their Web site. Maybe affiliated is the
wrong word but it's not far off. Associated with MC? Supporters
of MC? should be able to get a good feel for what will
eventually be approved by the state and offer input to correct
oversights as you see them.

Good, but I've been to more statewide meetings than you could
imagine, and I've seen the political poison firsthand. If Andy
Isaacs can't do it in person for Everyday Math because of , I
think your claim rings hollow. If anyone needs a refresher course
go to[

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