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Re: Ruth Parker in Mountain View
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Aug 31, 2000 12:45 PM
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Hello,
Re < I expect that many readers are already aware that the "mile wide and an inch deep" slogan, while catchy and initially heavily promoted by TIMSS in the US, turned out to be unsupported by a more detailed evidence from TIMSS. I believe it is rarely used anymore by TIMSS staff.
I would be interested in a concrete explanation of "turned out to be unsupported by a more detailed evidence from TIMSS."
In Facing the Consequences*, Schmidt et al. provide a more detailed examination of the consequences of our "mile wide and an inch deep" curricula. While other countries manage to achieve highly in at least one topic area, suggesting a deeper focus on those topics, U.S. achievement as a function of topic area never reaches the top. From what I have read, it seems that in-depth analysis of the curricula reveals that we, indeed, do try to cover too much with little depth.
Thanks.
Patsy
*William H. Schmidt, Curtis C. McKnight, Leland S. Cogan, Pamela M. Jakwerth, Richard T. Houang, Facing the Consequences: Using TIMSS for a Closer Look at U.S. Mathematics and Science Education, Kluwer Academic Publishers, 1999. _______________________________________________________ Patsy Wang-Iverson Mid-Atlantic Eisenhower Consortium (http://www.rbs.org/eisenhower) Research for Better Schools 444 N. Third Street Philadelphia, PA 19123-4107 vox: 215.574.9300 x264 fax: 215.574.0133 net: wang@rbs.org
Zeev Wurman <zeev@easic.com> To: AMTE <amte@esunix.emporia.edu> Sent by: cc: owner-amte@esunix.e Subject: Re: Ruth Parker in Mountain View mporia.edu 08/31/00 12:14 PM Please respond to amte
Just a couple of quickies before the gates slam...
Ruth Parker wrote:
> K-5 program called Investigations in Number, Data and Space, is > currently used in districts like Palo Alto, San Mateo, Oak Park and > Las Virgenes as well as many other districts throughout the nation. > Students from these districts score well on state and national tests.
Palo Alto does indeed use the "Investigations" series in, but it is heavily supplemented with the previously adopted textbooks (Holt, Math Unlimited). Detailed cross-correlation were developed by the staff in recognition of the deficient content in Investigations.
> However, if we are using the wrong measures, and I believe that > California is with the SAT 9 and the STAR augmentation, then we should > not pretend that children will be well prepared for their future.
So are the "state and national tests" that districts using "Investigations" get good scores on, indicative of the quality of "Investigations", as they do not prepare children for their future? Just curious :-)
> The standards fairly well ensure that education in California will > continue to be "a mile wide and an inch deep" - a state of affairs > decried in reports of the Third International Math and Science Study > (TIMSS).
I expect that many readers are already aware that the "mile wide and an inch deep" slogan, while catchy and initially heavily promoted by TIMSS in the US, turned out to be unsupported by a more detailed evidence from TIMSS. I believe it is rarely used anymore by TIMSS staff.
Ze'ev
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