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Topic: Re[2]: symmetry and skewness
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 Pat Ballew Posts: 356 Registered: 12/3/04
Re[2]: symmetry and skewness
Posted: Jun 3, 1996 1:32 PM

Rex,
I was about to write and let you know I had written a lesson outline
I noted that you said>>>>
>There is some software being developed to enhance this experiment.
>With it the number
>of cookies, number of chips and sample size can be altered, and the
>software will
>generate the stem and leave plot. If anyone is interested, I'll keep
>my ear to the
>ground and let you know when the software is available.

I just obtained a piece of software exactly designed for this type of
simulation, named Resample Stats. It took a maximum of five minutes to create
a program that continued to draw until all six "cookies" had three "chips" and
then gave me the mean, minimum value and a histogram of the results. I did not
ask for a box-plot, but it has that capacity also... then I wrote one that
generated 100 packages of three cookies using different numbers of chips in the
mix and counted how many packages had a defective cookie (less than three chips)
again the total time to write was under five minutes and to run was about 14
seconds. I have been working with this program for almost two weeks so it may
be easier and more powerful when I get more experienced.
I am sure I have sent the address to this list before, but if anyone wants it
again drop me a note.. and thanks again, Rex, for the problem

Pat Ballew,
Misawa, Japan

Subject: Re: symmetry and skewness
Author: rex@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au at EDU-INTERNET
Date: 5/31/96 7:27 PM

Here is a great activity for allowing introductory stats students to see how
much
variability one can expect in a distribution.

Mrs Fields claims that every chocolate chip cookie she makes will have at least
3
chocolate chips in it. If she is making a batch of 6 cookies, how many
chocolate chips
should she add to the batter to ensure her claim is correct?

First the students have to guess. Most high school students will think along
the lines
of well, lets see, 3 sixes are 18, but they won't distribute evenly, so I guess,
hmmm,
20 chips.

We simulate this as follows. Every student draws six circles on a piece of
paper,
numbered from 1 to 6, to represent the cookies. They then toss a die. If the
die shows
a 1, they put a dot in cookie 1, to represent a choc chip. They repeat until
all six
cookies have at least 3 choc chips.

Now the students come to the blackboard at the front of the room and add their
data to
the stem-and-leaf plot the instructor has constructed while the students were
tossing
their dice. Voila! a nice little distribtion. The students are _very_
surprised at
the variability in the answers. Not many are as low as 20 choc chips!

The process can be repeated and the data put on the other side of the stem, to
generate
a back to back stem plot.

The discussion that follows is enlightening. Do you have to put in as many
chips as the
largest value in the distribution? Or even more, just to be sure? If so, how
many
more? Or should Mrs Field occasionally allow here claim to not be met, in the
interest
of curtailing costs? If so how often should this happen, and what number of
chips
should be used? The idea of a confidence interval arises naturally from this.

There is some software being developed to enhance this experiment. With it the
number
of cookies, number of chips and sample size can be altered, and the software
will
generate the stem and leave plot. If anyone is interested, I'll keep my ear to
the
ground and let you know when the software is available.

Cheers

Rex Boggs
Glenmore High School
Rockhampton QLD Australia