I notice the messages preceeding this are US based. as a lecturer in higher education in the UK,I take a simplistic view in that TRIVIUM would be skills acquired in school where as QUADRIVIUM would belong (in any depth) to a university environment. My problem is that I am dying to engage my students in TRIVIUM due to their complete lack of preparation in those skills by school learning. Unfortunately pressure of work does not allow these luxuries to happen. How therefore can i expose my students to higher order concepts and hope that they will be able to argue and debate with precision and understanding? May be the medieval approach to learning has more going for it than we thought?