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Topic: Re: max min problems
Replies: 2   Last Post: Oct 26, 2001 6:49 PM

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 SANTU DESILVA Posts: 160 Registered: 12/4/04
Re: max min problems
Posted: Oct 26, 2001 9:14 AM

While I'm sympathetic to the goal of finding so-called
interesting problems, Rex's example is hardly an
improvement on the textbook variety! <grin>

If the goal is to have kids realize that maxima (often) occur
at relative extrema, I think the textbook problems are
perfectly adequate. If the goal is to make them
combine that fact with other given information,
(max-min + related rates), then there's unexplored
territory here, but it's easy to frustrate kids with
problems where there's a trick involved.
If the idea is to give them a problem where the
objective function or the constraint needs to
be constructed with some creativity, it has to
be realized that, yes, these are interesting, but
they're not learning "calculus" per se, they're
learning creativity. What do we really want?
I have to admit that, being as clever as I am, I'm
heavily biased in favor of clever problems. But
i try to resist!

Arch

>>> "Rex Boggs" <rboggs@bigpond.net.au> 10/25/01 08:58AM >>>
We are currently doing max-min problems using derivatives, and I am noticing
how unrealistic, trivial or pointless many of the traditional questions are,
e.g. inscribing shape A into shape B so as to maximise its area or volume,
designing a running track so the area it encloses is a maximum, building
chicken pens against barns and rivers, etc.

Are there some max-min problems out there that are more realistic and more
interesting than these?

As a starter, I will offer one (based on a real cereal box):

My breakfast cereal comes in a box which measures 160 mm by 75 mm by 245 mm,
and it contains 525 grams of cereal.

a. Re-design the box so that it is still rectangular, contains the same
amount of cereal, but uses less cardboard in its construction.

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Date Subject Author
10/26/01 SANTU DESILVA
10/26/01 Terence Gaffney
10/26/01 Rex Boggs