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Topic: Algebraic substitution with PolynomialReduce
Replies: 2   Last Post: Mar 10, 2011 6:14 AM

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 Guido Walter Pettinari Posts: 29 From: Italy & UK Registered: 3/24/10
Algebraic substitution with PolynomialReduce
Posted: Mar 9, 2011 7:00 AM

Dear group,

in order to perform algebraic substitutions in expressions, I usually
rely on replacementFunction, that is a very nice wrapper to
PolynomialReduce made by Daniel Lichtblau and Andrzej Kozlowski (see

However, I realized that replacementFunction is not enough when
dealing with multiple substitutions. Take this expression (which
itself is a sub-expression of a more complicated one in my code):

terms = (2 kx1^2 kx2^2)/3 - (kx2^2 ky1^2)/3 + 2 kx1 kx2 ky1 ky2 - (
kx1^2 ky2^2)/3 + (2 ky1^2 ky2^2)/3 - (kx2^2 kz1^2)/3 - (
ky2^2 kz1^2)/3 + 2 kx1 kx2 kz1 kz2 + 2 ky1 ky2 kz1 kz2 - (
kx1^2 kz2^2)/3 - (ky1^2 kz2^2)/3 + (2 kz1^2 kz2^2)/3

If I define k1 = {kx1, ky1, kz1} and k2 = {kx2, ky2, kz2}, then the
above is equal to the following combination of scalar products:

-(1/3 k1.k1 k2.k2 - (k1.k2)^2)

In order to explicitly reproduce the equality (and thus simplify the
equation), I tried to apply replacementFunction several times, with no
success. So I turned to PolynomialReduce. However, the following:

polylist = { k1.k1 k2.k2, (k1.k2)^2 };
PolynomialReduce[ terms, polylist, Join[k1, k2] ] // Last

did not return a zero remainder.

By reading old messages in the mailing list, I see that this may be
due to the ordering of the variables in the third argument, i.e.
Join[ k1,k2 ]. Using GroebnerBasis, I managed to prove that 'terms'
can be expressed in terms of the polynomials in 'polylist'. In fact:

gb = GroebnerBasis[polylist, Join[k1, k2] ];
PolynomialReduce[terms, gb, Join[k1, k2] ] // Last

yields zero.

The question is: how can I obtain the coefficients of my expression
('term') with respect to my polynomials ('polylist'), given that I
already have the coefficients of 'terms' with respect to the Groebner
basis of 'polylist'?

Thank you very much for your consideration!

Best wishes,

Guido W. Pettinari