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RE: Alg2Trig exam
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Jun 21, 2011 7:53 PM
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Think about this...there were no complex fractions... no complex
numbers... no nature of the roots.. no simplifying rational
expressions
Part II's no regression equation... no law of sines/cosines/area....
no trig graphs....
How about all the negatives that had to be substituted???(how many
times were they going to test that??)
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, k_wolpert wrote:
I called the state on #32 this afternoon and they said that I was the
only one to complain. We strongly believe it is a flawed question (and
answer). Please call-in tomorrow if you feel the same way my department
and I feel. The number is 518-474-5900. I cannot imagine taking any
credit off for a student who successfully argues that there is no
inverse function of f(x)= x^2-6.
Kevin
Kevin Wolpert
Mathematics Department Head
Saratoga Springs High School
(518) 587-6690 ext. 3318
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From: owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org [owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org] on
behalf of Meg Clemens [mclemens@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:13 PM
To: nyshsmath@mathforum.org
Subject: RE: Alg2Trig exam
The key states + or ? (as a symbol) sqrt(x + 6). Just stating the
positive sqrt only is a 1 point deduction on a 2 pt problem.
From: owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org
[mailto:owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:58 PM
To: nyshsmath@mathforum.org
Subject: Re: Alg2Trig exam
I already alerted our principal that there is a major problem with 32. I
have not yet seen the key. What were they looking for?
"There is no inverse function"? or instructions to restrict the domain
and THEN take the inverse? Hardly likely for a 2-pointer.
I have no confidence in the ability of NYSED to produce a good
examination in mathematics.
Jonathan Halabi
HS of American Studies
the Bronx
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Harry Witkin < HWitkin@lbeach.org
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I strongly agree with Meg's comment about #32; the answer must be a
function!
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<DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> Think about this...there were no complex fractions... no complex numbers... no nature of the roots.. no simplifying rational expressions</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Part II's no regression equation... no law of sines/cosines/area.... no trig graphs....</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> How about all the negatives that had to be substituted???(how many times were they going to test that??)</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, k_wolpert wrote:</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> <FONT SIZE="3">I called the state on #32 this afternoon and they said that I was the only one to complain. We strongly believe it is a flawed question (and answer). Please call-in tomorrow if you feel the same way my department and I feel. The number is 518-474-5900. I cannot imagine taking any credit off for a student who successfully argues that there is no inverse function of f(x)= x^2-6. </FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Kevin <FONT SIZE="2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> <FONT FACE="times new roman"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Kevin Wolpert <FONT FACE="times new roman"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="times new roman" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Mathematics Department Head </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="times new roman" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Saratoga Springs High School </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="times new roman" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">(518) 587-6690 ext. 3318 </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">___________________________________<FONT FACE="times new roman"></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>From: </B>owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org [owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org] on behalf of Meg Clemens [mclemens@twcny.rr.com] </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>Sent: </B>Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:13 PM </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>To: </B>nyshsmath@mathforum.org </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>Subject: </B>RE: Alg2Trig exam </FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">The key states + or ? (as a symbol) sqrt(x + 6). Just stating the positive sqrt only is a 1 point deduction on a 2 pt problem. <FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> <FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>From: </B>owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org [mailto:owner-nyshsmath@mathforum.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jonathan </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>Sent: </B>Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:58 PM </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>To: </B>nyshsmath@mathforum.org </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>Subject: </B>Re: Alg2Trig exam <FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> <FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">I already alerted our principal that there is a major problem with 32. I have not yet seen the key. What were they looking for? </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">"There is no inverse function"? or instructions to restrict the domain and THEN take the inverse? Hardly likely for a 2-pointer. </FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">I have no confidence in the ability of NYSED to produce a good examination in mathematics. </FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Jonathan Halabi </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">HS of American Studies </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">the Bronx <FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Harry Witkin < <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"><U>HWitkin@lbeach.org</U></A></FONT>> wrote: <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">I strongly agree with Meg's comment about #32; the answer must be a function! <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Harry Witkin <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">Long Beach Schools <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"> <FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0">___________________________________<FONT COLOR="#3333FF"><A HREF="javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('HWitkin@lbeach.org')" TARGET="_blank"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" LETTERSPACING="0" KERNING="0"><B>Notice to Recipient: </B>This electronic message and any attachments may contain confidential or privileged information, and is intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. 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