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Topic: Dingle and the Twins' Paradox (Tom and Paul Andersen are wrong)
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 oriel36 Posts: 96 Registered: 7/21/08
Re: Dingle and the Twins' Paradox (Tom and Paul Andersen are wrong)
Posted: Feb 25, 2012 6:00 AM
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On Feb 25, 10:16 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 12:15 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > On 2/24/12 2:38 PM, oriel36 wrote:
>
> > > Well,the Egyptian priests went to bed one night and woke up one
> > > specific morning to find that Sirius could be discriminated against
> > > the glare of the Sun,for contemporaries we should think of it less of
> > > Sirius rising against the horizon than the Earth moving Sirius
> > > sideways to the central Sun by virtue of our orbital motion a and I
> > > feel that any reader who does admire the event as an affirmation of
> > > the Earth's orbital motion would find it impossible if not repulsive
> > > to put Sirius in stellar circumpolar motion or the daily 'rising and
> > > setting' of stars and the clockwork system of Ra/Dec.

>
> >    Glare of the Sun is *no longer and issue*, Gerald.
>
> It is a simple line of sight argument that originates in the Earth's
> orbital motion around the central Sun,with enough distance from the
> glare of the Sun,Sirius makes its appearance hence the only acceptable
> meaning of 'sidereal' is the annual and cyclical return of a star to a
> meridian -
>
> http://books.google.com.au/books?id=m2QSAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&...
>
> as opposed to 'stella' which is a more generalized reference to the
> stars -
>
> http://books.google.com.au/books?id=m2QSAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&...
>
> This is not an etymological dispute between 'stella' and 'sidereal'
> however the calendar system is rooted in the 1461 days or the extra
> day after 4 consecutive 365 days that keeps the number of rotations
> fixed within the orbital points of the equinoxes and solstices.It
> cannot be understood in terms of the daily circumpolar return of a
> star to a meridian but it can easily be comprehended by putting the
> return a star,it just happened that Sirius had the most favorable
> attributes at a particular orbital point,in context of the calendar
> cycle and simultaneously in terms of planetary dynamics.
>
> Perhaps these are the dog days of astronomy for the idea is not to
> reject the Ra/Dec system but to return it to a status of a
> convenience,an outrigger of the core system which uses the appearance
> of a star properly in terms of the correspondence and the balance
> between days/years and rotations/orbital cycles. Men should not flee
> from this chapter of astronomy as there is a depth of feeling involved
> and it is intensely enjoyable putting the pieces together out of a
> simple statement -
>
> "..on account of the precession of the rising of the Divine Sothis/
> Sirius by one day in the course of 4 years, and other festivals
> celebrated in the summer, in this country, shall not be celebrated in
> winter, as has occasionally occurred in past times, therefore it shall
> be, that the year of 360 days and the 5 days added to their end, so
> one day as feast of Benevolent Gods [the pharaoh and family] be from
> this day after every 4 years added to the 5 epagomenae before the New
> Year, " Canopus Decree 238 BC
>
> The loneliest feeling is knowing that acceptance of the principles by
> the astronomical community is contingent on some personal sacrifice
> but ultimately it is worth it.

It turns out there is a fascinating history to all this as the root
meaning of 'consider' comes from Sidus/Sideratus which refers to
consideration of the celestial arena,something that is now almost lost
to the conjectured empirical novelties.The specific pages I need to
reference don't work so here is a substitute -

http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/CanisMajor.html

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2/13/12 Koobee Wublee
2/13/12 Brian Q. Hutchings
2/14/12 Dirk Van de moortel
2/14/12 Brian Q. Hutchings
2/18/12 microm2011@hotmail.com
2/19/12 Hayek
2/17/12 Sam Wormley
2/18/12 Koobee Wublee
2/18/12 Sam Wormley
2/20/12 PD
2/20/12 Koobee Wublee
2/20/12 Sam Wormley
2/19/12 Hayek
2/19/12 Dono
2/19/12 Androcles
2/19/12 Hayek
2/19/12 microm2011@hotmail.com
2/19/12 Hayek
2/19/12 microm2011@hotmail.com
2/22/12 Henry Wilson DSc
2/19/12 oriel36
2/19/12 Hayek
2/19/12 oriel36
2/19/12 pnalsing@gmail.com
2/20/12 Androcles
2/20/12 oriel36
2/20/12 Sam Wormley
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2/20/12 Sam Wormley
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2/21/12 Sam Wormley
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2/22/12 Michael Moroney
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2/22/12 Androcles
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2/22/12 pnalsing@gmail.com
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2/23/12 pnalsing@gmail.com
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2/23/12 pnalsing@gmail.com
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2/20/12 pnalsing@gmail.com
2/20/12 Androcles
2/20/12 Hayek
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2/19/12 Hayek
2/19/12 microm2011@hotmail.com
2/19/12 Androcles
2/20/12 Daryl McCullough
2/23/12 jsavard@ecn.ab.ca
2/23/12 Androcles
2/24/12 Koobee Wublee
2/24/12 Henry Wilson DSc
2/24/12 Sam Wormley
2/25/12 Henry Wilson DSc
2/25/12 Brian Q. Hutchings
2/25/12 Sam Wormley
2/25/12 Henry Wilson DSc
2/25/12 Peter Webb
2/26/12 Henry Wilson DSc
2/25/12 Sam Wormley
2/26/12 Henry Wilson DSc
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