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Topic: [math-learn] Re: Growing Inequalities - Response To Hansen
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 Richard Hake Posts: 1,251 From: Woodland Hills, CA 91367 Registered: 12/4/04
[math-learn] Re: Growing Inequalities - Response To Hansen
Posted: May 25, 2012 2:16 PM
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In response to my post "Re: Growing Inequalities - Response To
'Haim'," [Hake (2012)], Robert Hansen (2012) wrote [bracketed by
lines "HHHHH. . . . ."; my inserts at ". . . . .[[insert]]. . . .":

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1. According to your census link. . . . .[["Child Poverty in the
United States 2009 and 2010: Selected Race Groups and Hispanic
Origin" (USCB, 2011a) at <http://1.usa.gov/KGCpet>]]. . . ., it seems
that hispanics have a high rate of poverty. . . . .[[not just
"poverty," it's "32.3% of *children* in poverty]]. . . ., almost as
high as the black rate of poverty. . . . .[[ not just "poverty," it's
38.2% of *children* in poverty]]. . . . .

2. According to the following census link. . . . [["2010 Census Shows
Nation's Hispanic Population Grew Four Times Faster Than Total U.S.
Population" (USCB, 2011b) at <http://bit.ly/JYYd9x>]]. . . ., between
2000 and 2010 the Hispanic population increased by almost 50%, over 4
times as fast as the rest of the nation.

This seems to support Haim's statement rather well. . . . [[NO! - see
below]]. . . ., that the rapidly increasing hispanic population (with
their high poverty rate) is a substantial portion of the increase in
poverty for the nation as a whole.
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Hansen's point appears to be (please correct me if I'm wrong):

The *rapidly increasing* Hispanic population is
responsible for a substantial fraction of the
*increasing rate* of poverty of the U.S. as a whole . . . (Han)

Does "Han" support "Haim's" statements "Ham1,2", summarized in Hake (2012) as:

Immigrants from Latin America are responsible
for a significant fraction of poverty in the U.S. . . . . . (Ham1)

Income inequality can be reduced
by restricting Latino immigration. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Ham2)

Obviously not! I would think that polymath Hansen would appreciate
the difference between "x" and "dx/dt". Even "Haim" is aware of the
difference! In response to Hansen (2012). "Haim" (2012b) wrote:

"Right, but Hake was referring to . . . .[[what the virulently
anti-progressive "Haim" calls]]. . . the classical Marxist metric of
'The Gap'. . . . [[i.e., "Ham1"]]. . . . . . . "

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
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REFERENCES [All URL's shortened by <http://bit.ly/> and accessed on
25 May 2012.]
Hake, R.R. 2012. "Re: Growing Inequalities - Response To 'Haim', "
online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at <http://bit.ly/JHkbY9>. Post
of 24 May 2012 15:26:28-0700 to AERA-L and Net-Gold. The abstract and
link to the complete post are also being transmitted to several
discussion lists and are on my blog "Hake'sEdStuff" at
<http://bit.ly/LeGk4y> with a provision for comments.

"Haim". 2012a. "Re: Growing Inequalities," on the OPEN! Math-Teach
archives at <http://bit.ly/KSpXrz>. Post of 23 May 23 6:15 PM (the
MathForum fails to specify the time zone).

"Haim". 2012b. "Re: Growing Inequalities," on the OPEN! Math-Teach
archives at <http://bit.ly/JYUqJc>. Post of May 24, 2012 11:21 PM
(the MathForum fails to specify the time zone). See also "Haim"
(2012a).

Hansen, R. 2012. "Re: Growing Inequalities - Response To 'Haim', "
online on the OPEN! Math-Teach archives at <http://bit.ly/KEvLmK>,
post of 24 May 24 10:14 PM (the MathForum fails to specify the time
zone!)

USCB. 2011a. "Child Poverty in the United States 2009 and 2010:
Selected Race Groups and Hispanic Origin"; U.S. Census Bureau,
American Community Survey Briefs; online as a 1.4 MB pdf at
<http://1.usa.gov/KGCpet>.

USCB. 2011b. "2010 Census Shows Nation's Hispanic Population Grew
Four Times Faster Than Total U.S. Population," U.S. Census Bureau,
News Release, " 26 May; online at <http://bit.ly/JYYd9x>

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Date Subject Author
5/25/12 Richard Hake
5/25/12 Robert Hansen