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Richard Hake

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[math-learn] Re: Growing Inequalities - Response to an EvalTalk Subscriber
Posted: May 27, 2012 7:06 PM
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Some subscribers to Math-Learn might be interested in a recent
discussion-list post "Re: Growing Inequalities - Response to an
EvalTalk Subscriber" [Hake (2012)]. The abstract reads:

ABSTRACT: In response to my post "Re: Growing Inequalities - Response
To 'Haim' " at <>, an EvalTalk subscriber wrote
to me privately (paraphrasing):

"You wrote: 'Math-Teach's "Haim" responded at <>
and seemed to suggest that: (1) immigrants from Latin America are
responsible for a significant fraction of poverty in the United
States, and (2) income inequality can be reduced by restricting
Latino immigration.' If you are right about what he said, I think he
is remarkably ignorant of the long history of income inequality and
poverty in America and woefully ignorant of its underlying causes."
The latter are well delineated by Noah (2012) in "The Great
Divergence" <>.

I agree with the EvalTalk subscriber regarding "Haim's" ignorance. In
a later Math-Teach post the person who hides behind the pseudonym
"Haim" wrote at <> (paraphrasing): ". . . .Hake
was referring to the classical Marxist metric of 'The Gap': 'The rich
get richer, the poor get poorer' sort of thing. . . . .This gives the
socialists a lot to talk about. . . . They implement policies that
will naturally cause incomes to diverge, then they blame us for the
divergence. They play exactly the same game in public education. They
implement policies everyone knows will do terrible damage (social
promotion, anyone?), then they scream bloody murder about the damage."

Is it possible that "Haim" is actually a REAL PERSON??

To access the complete 11 kB post please click on <>.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
Links to Articles: <>
Links to SDI Labs: <>
Blog: <>
Academia: <>
Twitter <!/rrhake>
GooglePlus: <>

". . . .from 1980 to 2005, 80 percent of the total increase in
American's income went to the top 1 percent."
- Noah (2012, page 25)

REFERENCES [All URL's shortened by <> and accessed on
27 May 2012.]
Hake, R.R. 2012. "Re: Growing Inequalities - Response to an EvalTalk
Subscriber," online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at
<>. Post of 27 May 2012 13:34:19-0700 to AERA-L
and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the complete post are also
being transmitted to several discussion lists and are on my blog
"Hake'sEdStuff" at <> with a provision for

Noah, T. 2012. "The Great Divergence: America's Growing Inequality
Crisis and What We Can Do about It." Bloomsbury Press, publisher's
information at <>, note the "read an excerpt" -
pages 10-27 of Chapter 1, "Paradise Lost." information at
<>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.

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