Further my post dated Sep 9, 2012 1:28 PM (copy pasted below my signature for reference):
TO: THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, 'EDUCATION MAFIA' HEADQUARTERS Fm: GSC
Below my signature you will find a copy of the latest in a series of Internet messages that now definitively PROVE the essentiality of a major educational THRUST that MUST now be made by 'EDUCATION MAFIA' forces worldwide, in the current campaign to improve US education:
- -- Substitution of courses covering 'How To Think'; 'What is a Proof?'; 'Logic 101' - instead of Arithmetic (starting from 'counting numbers'), Algebra, etc. These courses should be taught to ALL adults, starting with the ones of the group 'Math-teach @ Drexel'.
GSC a humble foot-soldier in this great war ("Still Shoveling Away!" GSC posted Sep 9, 2012 1:28 PM: > Haim posted Sep 9, 2012 7:02 AM: > > > > Kirby Urner Posted: Sep 8, 2012 4:50 PM > > > > >We agree the NEA exists. I had offices in the same > > > >building once, in DC (I've just returned from > said > > city, > > >though I didn't get in to downtown, saw the > > "Exorcist > > >steps" in Georgetown at least -- near where my > > friend > > >EJA used to live). I confirm it exists. > > > > > >But does it follow that the rest of your analysis > is > > > > >precise? > > > We always knew the 'NEA' (National Education > Association) existed. That has never been denied. > What's in doubt is that the NEA is isomorphic to > Haim's malign 'Education Mafia'. Ahhh...THAT'S what > Haim proposes to prove next... > > > > One step at a time, Kirby. Some people in this > forum > > m doubt the existence of the Education Mafia, or > so > > they say. So let us first establish existence. > > > Existence of NEA granted. Now comes the proof that > the NEA is the 'Education Mafia' (or a major part of > it)? > > > > Now, if the NEA were the only active ingredient in > > American public education, I would not call them > the > > Education Mafia, I would call them the NEA. There > are > > a few other organizations, whose existence is just > as > > easily proved, who together constitute the > Education > > Mafia. But, the NEA is a good place to start. > > > > > OK. I give you that. Anywhere is a good place to > start. I had given various suggestions: President > Barack Obama; First Lady Michelle Obama; their > charming daughters; Haim; Wayne Bishop;....; Paul A. > Tanner III; GSC; .... etc, etc, etc. OK, we've fixed > on the NEA to start with... > > > > > Is the Education Mafia necessarily "leftist" and > > what > > >does that mean? > > > > Of course leftism does not necessarily follow from > > existence. Existence is one issue, leftism > another. > > > RIGHT! GOT THAT! > > > > >Then lets take Big Publishing. You talk out both > > sides > > >of your mouth saying leftists are stupid to think > in > > > > >terms of Wall Street or Big Oil, but then invoke > > >precisely these entities to bolster your > Education > > >Mafia idea. > > > > I said no such thing. I did not say leftists are > > e stupid because they think in terms of Wall > Street > > or Big Oil. I always call leftists stupid. > > > RIGHT! GOT THAT! > > > >Even > > stupid leftists will eat their vegetables and > brush > > their teeth before going to bed, so stupid people > can > > do right things, sometimes. > > > RIGHT! GOT THAT TOO! > > > >In this case, they > > correctly recognize that whole industries, which > are > > otherwise comprised of competing entities, can > have > > certain, industry-wide, common interests. > > > RIGHT! AND THAT TOO! > > > > In this recognition, the leftists like to use > > use pejorative terms to describe the industry > > players. > > > And Haim, and 'Haimists' do not? I don't quite get > that. > . > >Vaguely threatening terms like "Big Oil" > > and "Big Pharma"---evocative of George Orwell's > "Big > > Brother". When I call the education industry "the > > Education Mafia", I am just returning the favor. > > > OH? Okay. > > > > It seems that some of our leftist friends do not > > not like the taste of their own medicine. > \sarcasm > > on Imagine my chagrin \sarcasm off. > > > OK. (Alternative form of "Okay"). > > > > >I used to work in Rockefeller Center in downtown > > >Manhattan for McGraw-Hill. Isn't that kind of > close > > >to Wall Street, even financially? > > > > Not by NYC standards, > > > http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/72-the-world-as-seen- > > > from-new-yorks-9th-avenue > > > OK, I leave such geographical issues to you. > > > > In the NYC cosmology, Rockefeller Center is in > > midtown, which is a world apart from downtown > > (downtown is congruent to "Wall Street"). > > > > >Isn't public education a big business? Isn't the > > private > > >sector hugely invested in the future of public > > >education? Look at Texas Instruments. > > > > Geez guy! That's what I have been trying to tell > > ell you for 10 yrs! As I have stated many times, > I > > tend to focus on the ideologues (ed school > > professoriate) and the unions, but there are many, > > many other fingers in the education pie. > > > E.g., dat ol' evil 'UNICORN'! (a.k.a. de 'Education > Mafia'). > > > >There are a > > whole lot of people out there with vested > interests > > in public education as it currently exists. They > > make a lot of money off it, and they like things > just > > the way they are, and they are going to resist > > change, if only through sheer inertia, of which > there > > is an enormous amount. > > > > Haim > > Shovel ready? What shovel ready? > > > QED? > And the above is what is supposed to constitute a > "proof", by Haim? > > Well, let that put that to M/s Socrates; Pythagoras; > Euclid; Poincare; (and others qualified to judge > esoterica such as "a proof, by Haim"). > > It doesn't pass, by GSC: Go to Logic 101. > > GSC > ("Still Shoveling Away!") > > > Message was edited by: GS Chandy > > > Message was edited by: GS Chandy