On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Robert Hansen <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 1:58 PM, kirby urner <email@example.com> wrote: > > I mean she's now in college on scholarship studying STEM subjects, > health care slant. > > > I guess I was looking for something more observable. Like google code > contests or AP calc and physics. Did you notice that she could think more > rationally (formal reasoning) at some point? > > Bob Hansen
I think the debating coaches / team / experience did more to steer her into philosophy, where logic is historically used in dialogs e.g. Socrates conversing with his students. Her event, Lincoln-Douglas style debate, explicitly requires reading the likes of Kant, Hume, Locke etc. She's reading similar literature in college, plus tackling German.
I don't think the arithmetic / algebra teachers have much to do with teaching formal reasoning skills in today's world given the content they pander is ipso facto obsolete. They don't come across as rational beings or, closer to the truth, they come across as imprisoned animals, slaves to nationally pandered snake oil that passes for curriculum. No A- or B- modules though, unless maybe at Winterhaven PPS.
Her work at Oregon Health Sciences University is likely on file. That's not an AP score I realize.
In my case, I was a product of the New Math curriculum, later despised by the backlashers (fundamentalist back to basic types). I scored 1490 in the SAT and placed into Honors Calculus under Thurston, none the worse for the experience. I did sample Florida's schooling for one semester in high school. If it hadn't been for Star Trek on TV, I think I would have keeled over in boredom. Once I got to the Philippines, things improved. The Philippines is an Anglophone nation and has a lot of good STEM teachers. I'm glad US students tend to get lots of exposure to this ethnicity.
When living in the Philippines, I had access to 'Sesame Street' and this later fired my interest in writing for Childrens Television Workshop. I submitted a proposal while working at McGraw-Hill, but of course cubicle workers on some 28th floor are not the ones being solicited by RFPs of that nature. I only recount this incident (from the 1980s) because it shows I've always been fascinated by television, not just the Internet (not that these are easy to disentangle).