Responding to Haim's post Jan 11, 2013 9:54 AM (copied below my signature for ready reference):
With due respect for MPG's request to take any discussions of OPMS off this thread, I state only:
Haim's statement are quite as false and foolish as is his fatuous recommendation for US public school education:
"PUT THE EDUCATION MAFIA IN JAIL!"
If our Moderator would kindly permit, I shall start a 'New Topic' that will properly demonstrate the falsity (and foolishness) of Haim's asseverations as pasted below my signature - AND which will also serve, at least superficially, to indicate how an effective Action Plan could be created for any *worthwhile* Mission for your education system. (In a little while, as right now I'm busy preparing for a workshop). *"Worthwhile" means VERY DIFFERENT FROM Haim's fatuous recommendation.
GSC ("Still Shoveling!")
Haim posted Jan 11, 2013 9:54 AM > > Robert Hansen Posted: Jan 10, 2013 12:33 PM > > >> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:02 PM, GS Chandy > >> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > >> Can RH provide ANY data at all to demonstrate the > >> validity of his claim that OPMS is just "petty > list- > >> making - and nothing else"??? > > > >Yes, certainly. You have been trying to sell OPMS to > the > >world for at least 20 years and all you have to show > for > >that is a single anecdotal story of a relative using > it > >once. > > Not so, Bob. Perhaps you have forgotten that GS > GS and I conducted a demonstration of OPMS in this > very forum. First, my own conclusion about OPMS, > > - --------------------------- > http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7357856 > Ah! I get it, finally. OPMS is not a method of > analysis, like a flow chart or a decision table, it > is a method of persuasion. That is why you cannot > present to us the results of an OPMS analysis. The > process is the result. That is why process is > everything to you. That is why OPMS is an endless > road to nowhere. That is why your writings have less > the flavor of an engineer working on a physical > problem and much, much more the flavor of a > psychologist who wants everyone in the same room, > sharing feelings. Everyone's feelings are equally > valid, and you are not looking for an optimal outcome > except insofar as consensus is optimal, whatever that > consensus might be. > - ------------------------------ > > Now, the main part of the "Live Demonstration" > on" starts here, > http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=2308842&t > start=0 > and here, > http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7594819 > > Unfortunately, for reasons I have never investigated, > discussion threads on Math-Teach become fragmented > and orphaned. To follow the entire Demonstration > requires some perseverence. > > Finally, the Live Demonstration continues on a bit > bit in the thread, "Towards an effective public > school system for US" Was: "Live Demo..." > http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?forumID=206&thread > ID=2335906&messageID=7652351#7652351 > wherein I again conclude, > > "At this point, it should be apparent to anyone who > o has had the patience and the stamina (and the poor > judgement) to follow our preposterous conversation > that OPMS is a slow, painful road to nowhere." > > Haim > No representation without taxation.