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concepts and terms of Physics #1153 New Physics #1273 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

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neutron decay contradicts Standard Model Chapt15.39 Glossary of
concepts and terms of Physics #1153 New Physics #1273 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

Posted: Jan 14, 2013 3:03 PM
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Sorry for the long quote of Wikipedia on neutron decay, but I need to
comment on all those features that Wikipedia talks about, for it shows
the falsity of the Standard Model.

And one can see why I needed to talk about the three possible lines of
Geometry, straight line, curved inward line and curved outward line
for the Euclidean, Elliptic and Hyperbolic geometry.

This is important as to what to expect in neutron decay.

If you believe in the Standard Model, the neutron decays because of
the proton alters a quark from being udd to that of being udu. So in
Standard Model, the proton initiates the decay. In New Physics, the
opposite is predicted. That the electron initiates the decay and that
quarks are silly nonexistent contraptions by over imaginative

In New Physics, what initiates neutron decay of the free neutron is
the fact that outside the atom nucleus, the neutron is in a Euclidean
space geometry and the Maxwell Equations no longer holds the electron
bound with the proton together. The electron in New Physics is
hyperbolic geometry whereas the proton is elliptic geometry and the
electron follows a hyperbolic path away from the proton.

So here we see two theories that diverge drastically, for the Standard
Model predicts the proton as the initiator of the decay of free
neutron, and the New Physics with the Maxwell Equations as axioms
predicts the electron is the initiator of the neutron decay.

Now I said I was sorry for making such a long quote of Wikipedia, but
you can see clearly why I did that because in that last paragraph
Wikipedia mentions a small fraction of neutron decays where the
electron stays stuck to the proton. So the importance of that last
paragraph is that it contradicts the entire Quark theory based
Standard Model by telling us, it is not the proton that starts the
neutron to decay, but rather, the electron. And so that means the
quark theory is worthless junk.

As a free neutron decays, it decays because the neutron is no longer
confined by Maxwell Equations in the small tiny space of the nucleus
of its 10^-16 meters. The confinement allows the electron inside the
neutron to stay bound to the other protons of the nucleus. When
outside the nucleus the neutron has its nuclear electron obey its
Hyperbolic geometry and begins the process of the decay of the

So, here is a experimental prediction that separates the New Physics
with its Maxwell Equations, separates it from the Old Physics of
Standard Model with its quark nonsense.

Experiment: test to see which particle is first observed in a neutron
decay-- is it the proton or is it the electron? If it is the proton,
then there should not be any experiments showing the electron stayed
stuck with the proton.

--- quoting Wikipedia on neutron decay ---
Under the Standard Model of particle physics, because the neutron
consists of three quarks, the only possible decay mode without a
change of baryon number is for one of the quarks to change flavour via
the weak interaction. The neutron consists of two down quarks with
charge ?1?3 e and one up quark with charge +2?3 e, and the decay of
one of the down quarks into a lighter up quark can be achieved by the
emission of a W boson. By this means the neutron decays into a proton
(which contains one down and two up quarks), an electron, and an
electron antineutrino.
[edit]Free neutron decay
Outside the nucleus, free neutrons are unstable and have a mean
lifetime of 881.5±1.5 s (about 14 minutes, 42 seconds); therefore the
half-life for this process (which differs from the mean lifetime by a
factor of ln(2) = 0.693) is 611.0±1.0 s (about 10 minutes, 11 seconds).
[5] Free neutrons decay by emission of an electron and an electron
antineutrino to become a proton, a process known as beta decay:[20]
n0 ? p+ + e? + ?
The decay energy for this process (based on the masses of neutrino,
proton, and electron) is 0.782 343 MeV. The maximal energy of the beta
decay electron (in the process wherein the neutrino receives vanishing
kinetic energy) has been measured at 0.782 ± .013 MeV.[21] The latter
number is not well-enough measured to constrain the rest mass of the
neutrino as well as it is constrained by many other methods.
A small fraction (about one in 1000) of free neutrons decay with the
same products, but add an extra particle in the form of an emitted
gamma ray:
n0 ? p+ + e? + ?
e + ?
This gamma ray may be thought of as a sort of "internal
bremsstrahlung" which arises as the emitted beta particle interacts
with the charge of the proton in an electromagnetic way. Internal
bremsstrahlung gamma ray production is also a minor feature of beta
decays of bound neutrons (as discussed below).
Finally, a very small minority of neutron decays (about four per
million) are so-called "two-body decays," in which the proton,
electron and antineutrino are produced, but the electron fails to gain
the 13.6 eV necessary energy to escape the proton, and therefore
simply remains bound to it, as a neutral hydrogen atom. In this type
of free neutron decay, essentially all of the neutron decay energy is
carried off by the antineutrino.
--- end quoting ---

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