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Topic: Prime numbers and primality tests
Replies: 4   Last Post: Jan 22, 2013 11:18 PM

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 amzoti Posts: 1,113 Registered: 3/6/07
Re: Prime numbers and primality tests
Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:14 AM

On Monday, January 14, 2013 8:28:20 PM UTC-8, john...@gmail.com wrote:
> A straightforward way to test a prime number candidate is the Miller-Rabin test (sometimes called the Rabin-Miller test). This well known and popular test is commonly executed 50 times on a candidate prime and has a proven probability of missing a non-prime of no more than 0.25 for each execution. Note that passing 50 Miller-Rabin tests (which is a de facto standard), the probability of non-primality is 0.25^50 ~ 7.9*10^-31, I'm satisfied that the number NextPrime gives me is "prime enough". Mathematica uses the Miller-Rabin test, although it is not clear how many iterations are used. As I understand it, Mathematica also the Lucas pseudo prime test on the Miller-Rabin output.
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> It is interesting to note, however, that the Lucas pseudo prime method of primality testing apparently does not have the handy "feature" of the Miller-Rabin test, namely, the provable, and bounded low probability of a wrong answer, from whence an estimate of primality for any number can be made without finding a counter example!
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> I've read that there are have been no counter-examples (viz., no non-primes that pass the the Lucas pseudo prime test) to numbers that pass the Lucas pseudo prime test, but then again, I've never found an oyster with a pearl inside.
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> Is the Miller-Rabin a better test that the Lucas pseudo prime test?
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> http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/tutorial/IntegerAndNumberTheoreticalFunctions.html
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> http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/tutorial/SomeNotesOnInternalImplementation.html
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> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LucasPseudoprime.html

How does your Miller-Rabin test fair against the following?

8038374574536394912570796143419421081388376882875581458374889175222974273765333652186502336163960045457915042023603208766569966760987284043965408232928738791850869166857328267761771029389697739470167082304286871099974399765441448453411558724506334092790222752962294149842306881685404326457534018329786111298960644845216191652872597534901

Using the two tests together make a better test and I wouldn't say that one is better than the other.

Date Subject Author
1/14/13 John Feth
1/19/13 amzoti
1/20/13 bobbaillie@frii.com
1/21/13 bobbaillie@frii.com
1/22/13 bobbaillie@frii.com