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Topic: A quicker way?
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 mluttgens Posts: 80 Registered: 3/3/11
Re: A quicker way?
Posted: Feb 5, 2013 5:00 AM
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Le lundi 4 février 2013 19:23:36 UTC+1, konyberg a écrit :
> On Monday, February 4, 2013 7:05:18 PM UTC+1, lut...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > Le lundi 4 février 2013 18:04:31 UTC+1, quasi a écrit :
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> > > >> >luttgma@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > >> >>Let n^2 = N + a^2, where n, N and a are integers.
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> > > >> >>Knowing N, it is of course possible to find n by trying
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> > > >> >>But doesn't exist a quicker way ?
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> > > >> >if you rewrite the equation in the form
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> > > >Thank you, but then you must find u and v, which doesn't
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> > I am looking for a general solution of n^2 = N + a^2, but perhaps there is none.
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Thank you, but I read in
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/mathematics/numberTheory/divisibilityFermat.htm
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"When the factors aren't near the root of the number, the method works very slowly, perhaps as slowly as trial division, with far more work!"

Marcel

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