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Alan Smaill

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Registered: 1/29/05

Re: Matheology § 210
Posted: Feb 11, 2013 4:46 AM

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WM <mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de> writes:

> On 8 Feb., 23:05, Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:
>> In article
>> <43d2d64e-7641-4f96-bbe6-59fe20991...@e11g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
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>> WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:
>> > On 8 Feb., 12:13, Alan Smaill <sma...@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> > > WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> writes:
>> > > > On 7 Feb., 20:17, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > ...
>> > > >> In classical set theory the accessible numbers are listable
>>
>> > > >> Note from the Wikipedia quote
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>> > > >> > Constructively it is consistent to assert the
>> > > >> > subcountability of some uncountable collections
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>> > > > Of course, the intuitionists accepted this nonsense, perhaps forced by
>> > > > the matheologians.
>>
>> > > What a joker!
>>
>> > > You tell us that you do not know Brouwer's opinion on this question,
>> > > but here you are telling us what intuitionists accept.
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>> > I know Brouwer's opinion very well But I do not discuss with you about
>> > that opinionb because you turn every word in my mouth.
>>
>> That words seem to turn in WM's mouth does not man that anyone other
>> than WM himself is responsible for such turnings.
>>
>> > > WM is inconsistent.
>>
>> > > As for intuitionists being "forced" into taking up a
>> > > position inconsistent with classical mathematics by classical
>> > > mathematicians ...
>> > > a classic absurdity.
>>
>> > No. Hilbert fired Brouwer from his most prestigious position with the
>> > Annalen.
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>> How would that force Brouwer into taking up a position INCONSISTENT with
>> classical mathematics?
>
> Vice versa. Brouwer had a position inconsistent with Hilbert's
> mathematics. Therefore he was fired.

And stuck to his position.
His position was therefore not the result of pressure from Hilbert
or others.

>
> Regards, WQM

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Alan Smaill