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Limits on what we can see in astronomy #1438 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

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can any telescope see the Voyager 1: PBS's "Seeing Stars" Chapt16.12
Limits on what we can see in astronomy #1438 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

Posted: Mar 28, 2013 2:57 AM
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"Seeing Stars" was a program on PBS tonight, and of all the programs I
have seen on science, never have I seen a show in which the program
matched my present day thinking. In the past two days I have
been discussing distortions of what we see in astronomy and what
really exists in astronomy. And this program is about the distortions
of the Earth's atmosphere on telescopes.

But in these past few days, I have asked for what distortions does the
Oort Cloud impose on astronomy.

In "Seeing Stars" they discuss these topics:

(a) Atacomba (spelling) Desert Telescope to minimize atmospheric
distortion. Sadly though, where the two astronomers thought they saw a
black hole in the Milky Way (no black holes exist), that the same
could be said of the other nearby dots.

(b) telescope on a airplane called (sofia (spelling))

(c) James Webb telescope to be place at L2 in deep space

(d)Infrared telescopes and then sub-millimeter-light telescopes

(e) France's under water Antares Neutrino telescope.

It was an interesting program.

But I would like those astronomers, not the neutrino telescope, but
the other telescopes to answer a question, and include the Hubble
telescope.

Can any of those telescopes see the Voyager 1 spacecraft as it is
exiting the Solar System? Can Hubble, can Atacomba?, can Sofia? can
the sub-millimeter light telescope?

Can any telescope actually spot and see the Voyager spacecraft this
very moment? And if the answer is "no", then at what distance was the
last time that any telescope could spot Voyager?

It is important for the science of astronomy to stop playing this game
of not telling what the limits of our instruments are.

Because errors like that of saying "we spotted a black-hole in the
Milky Way, when all they really did was have a moment of "delusion of
seeing".

Now if the Universe is a plutonium atom and the Observable Universe is
the last electron which is shaped like a elongated ellipsoid, a
cylinder shape, then the galaxies we can see are only a small fraction
of all the galaxies and thus it would be black and void beyond the
horizon of the Cosmos.

Suppose Earth had no atmosphere and we trained our telescopes along
the surface of Earth. The limit of our telescope would be the horizon,
the curvature of Earth would mark the end of what we can see.

Now apply that to astronomy and the curvature of the Cosmos. That at
some distance, our telescopes will see a horizon boundary and beyond
we see nothing by black dark Space-- Voids.

This means that the Great Wall and Sloan Great Walls are not far away
but rather close to the Milky Way.

Now I written enough for one post, but I do realize in this post I
have an alternative explanation for the Dark Night Sky problem. In
prior editions of this book I explained away the dark night sky,
Olbers paradox by saying the Universe is a atom and has cavity, a
quantum blackbody cavity and they are black. Now I have another
explanation, that the Cosmos is ellipsoid shape with a horizon and so
stars and galaxies are visible only up to the horizon and beyond the
light never reaches us.

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Archimedes Plutonium
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whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies



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