On Mar 28, 7:37 pm, Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can any astronomer actually be honest? I mean, here we have an Oort > Cloud that none of our telescopes has confirmed to exist and so we > call it a > "hypothesized Oort cloud". And if it does exist as shown in Wikipedia:
Speaking of honesty... jump to end of post for off-thread issue...
> --- quoting from Wikipedia --- > The Oort cloud /??rt/ (named after Jan Oort), or Öpik?Oort cloud, >  is a hypothesized spherical cloud of predominantly icy > planetesimals that may lie roughly 50,000 AU, or nearly a light-year, > from the Sun. This places the cloud at nearly a quarter of the > distance to Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to the Sun. The Kuiper > belt and the scattered disc, the other two reservoirs of trans- > Neptunian objects, are less than one thousandth of the Oort cloud's > distance. The outer limit of the Oort cloud defines the cosmographical > boundary of the Solar System and the region of the Sun's gravitational > dominance. > The Oort cloud is thought to comprise two separate regions: a > spherical outer Oort cloud and a disc-shaped inner Oort cloud, or > Hills cloud. Objects in the Oort cloud are largely composed of ices, > such as water, ammonia, and methane. > --- end quoting --- > > And if it does exist as shown in Wikipedia of the Oort Cloud along > with the Hill Cloud, they would distort any images of stars and > galaxies that the telescopes manage to actually pick up. > > So we have Earth's atmosphere for distortion, and then we have the > Oort Cloud distortion and then we would expect every star to have its > own Oort Cloud. > > So repeating my question, can any astronomer be honest about the data > and facts collected? For we have the silly situation that astronomers > claim to see walls of galaxies and superclusters, yet they are unable > to even see the ice planetesimals surrounding the solar system. That > is like saying from my house on Earth, I can see a full hemisphere > of Earth but I cannot see what is beyond my backyard. > > It is exactly these type of situations in the science of astronomy > that gives astronomers a bad name. For what astronomy needs is a > leader who can guide the direction of astronomy. At one time Hubble > served as a leader, until, Hubble found objection to Doppler redshift > as a distance measure. And although Hubble then renounced the redshift > as a distance measure, none of the pipsqueaks that comprised the rest > of the astronomy community had enough intelligence to renounce the > Doppler redshift. > > What I want to know with some accuracy, is just how good is the Hubble > telescope or any other telescope in seeing the Voyager 1? Is it fully > out of sight from any of our most advanced telescopes? And if so, at > what distance did it become "beyond view"? > > Why is that important? > > Because with that distance we can translate that distance to > resolution. A shining star or galaxy is different from a Voyager 1 of > reflected light, but with distance the star or galaxy becomes equal to > the Voyager 1. So that if this translation-factor is 90 million light > years, implies that nothing we have seen > in the night sky is more than 90 million light years away. > > You see, after Hubble, there seems to have been no scientist in > astronomy with a ability to logically think and reason clearly. > Because, if there had been a clear thinker, he would have demanded > this Limitation Gauge of Telescopes a long time ago, and not here in > March of 2013. > > -- > > Only Drexel's Math Forum has done a excellent, simple and fair author- > archiving of AP posts for the past 15 years as seen here: > > http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986 > > Archimedes Plutoniumhttp://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium > whole entire Universe is just one big atom > where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
Hello Archimedes Plutonium, do you know who userID "genios" is? Is someone masquerading as you==AP while being "genios" and sending rude stalking type email messages?
Fwiw, to all and particularly some "genios", I do neither trash nor spam the group sci.math with off-topic messages. Learn to read and know where I do post. If you don't like my posts, and I don't blame you==anyYou, then learn to read posts made by only other Other OTHER authors! It's easy if you try.
Enjo(y)... Cheers... -- Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple"... as in Loops, Syrup, Wood.