Drexel dragonThe Math ForumDonate to the Math Forum



Search All of the Math Forum:

Views expressed in these public forums are not endorsed by Drexel University or The Math Forum.


Math Forum » Discussions » Education » math-teach

Topic: Low Income / High Achieving Students
Replies: 4   Last Post: May 29, 2013 11:06 AM

Advanced Search

Back to Topic List Back to Topic List Jump to Tree View Jump to Tree View   Messages: [ Previous | Next ]
Robert Hansen

Posts: 8,206
From: Florida
Registered: 6/22/09
Low Income / High Achieving Students
Posted: May 16, 2013 2:17 PM
  Click to see the message monospaced in plain text Plain Text   Click to reply to this topic Reply

This is a very interesting study...

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/projects/bpea/spring%202013/2013a_hoxby.pdf

I came across a reference to this study in this story here...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-american-colleges-becoming-force-161124192.html

Essentially, the gist is that many high achieving low income students are not finding their way to "selective" colleges. This might be a true, depending of course on what you mean by "selective", "high achieving" and "low income". But what caught my attention was the pie-chart in the (yahoo) story. It states that 17% of the set of "high achieving" students are in the lowest quartile by income. In other words, the students from the poorest 25% of households still contribute 17% of the students in the group of high achieving students. That doesn't sound farfetched, unless, you spent your whole childhood growing up with students in the lowest 25% by income. Then it becomes pretty farfetched.

I need to examine the study in more detail but it states that "high achieving" is...

"Nevertheless, some low-income students are very high achievers: at the end of high school, they have grades and college aptitude test scores that put them in the top 4 percent of all U.S. secondary school students or--equivalently--the top 10 percent of students who take one the ACT or SAT college assessment exams."

And I would agree that scoring in the 90th+ percentile of the ACT or the SAT would qualify as "high achieving". What I can't fathom is that the bottom quartile of students by income (the bottom 25%) could contribute 17% of that group. That would be remarkable if the study holds up under scrutiny but I am thinking that they chose as a criteria either high SAT/ACT scores OR good grades, not both an not at least high SAT/ACT scores.

But I could be wrong, but then socioeconomic factors have a much lesser effect on education that all of the other test results have shown.

Bob Hansen



Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in this topic.

[Privacy Policy] [Terms of Use]

© Drexel University 1994-2014. All Rights Reserved.
The Math Forum is a research and educational enterprise of the Drexel University School of Education.