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Topic: Is logic part of mathematics - or is mathematics part of logic?
Replies: 32   Last Post: Jul 7, 2013 9:03 PM

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 Clyde Greeno Posts: 68 Registered: 5/21/10
Re: Is logic part of mathematics - or is mathematics part of logic?
Posted: Jul 4, 2013 12:44 PM

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From: "Joe Niederberger" <niederberger@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 8:25 AM
To: <math-teach@mathforum.org>
Subject: Re: Is logic part of mathematics - or is mathematics part of logic?

> R Hansen says:
>>Forget a sixth grader, how exactly do you teach modus ponens to anyone?
>>Again, to my analogy, how do you teach someone what a rose smells like?

# You take them to a rose bush, and let them smell it, and say, "This is
how roses smell". If you are unwilling to call that "teaching", you have
have confused "teaching" with "telling" ... as have all too many American
educators.

# Likewise, you take them to where they can experience modus ponens, and say
"This is called 'modus ponens'." And the easiest and most meaningful place
for learners to encounter modus ponens is within their own routine
conversation. All functional humans naturally use it ... its built into the
evolution of their thinking processes. Any "teaching" of it is merely
calling attention to it, and giving it a name ... which does, indeed, pave
the way for further learning more about it.

>
> Here's an analogy:
> How do I teach you to interpret a simple picture accurately? The answer,
> my friend, is blowin in the wind...
>
> Forget the fact that modus ponens has been taught for ages upon ages, its
> more fun to make up RH style koans.
>
> Cheers,
> Joe N

Date Subject Author
7/4/13 Clyde Greeno
7/4/13 Robert Hansen
7/4/13 Joe Niederberger
7/4/13 GS Chandy
7/4/13 Robert Hansen
7/5/13 Louis Talman
7/5/13 GS Chandy
7/5/13 GS Chandy
7/5/13 GS Chandy
7/5/13 Robert Hansen
7/5/13 Joe Niederberger
7/5/13 Robert Hansen
7/6/13 Wayne Bishop
7/6/13 Robert Hansen
7/6/13 Robert Hansen
7/7/13 Wayne Bishop
7/7/13 Robert Hansen
7/6/13 Wayne Bishop
7/5/13 Joe Niederberger
7/5/13 Joe Niederberger
7/5/13 Robert Hansen
7/5/13 Joe Niederberger
7/5/13 Robert Hansen
7/5/13 Louis Talman
7/6/13 Robert Hansen
7/6/13 Robert Hansen
7/6/13 Louis Talman
7/5/13 Jonathan Crabtree
7/5/13 GS Chandy
7/5/13 Robert Hansen
7/7/13 GS Chandy
7/5/13 GS Chandy