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Topic: to contruct reals as infinite decimals, do you need axiom of choice
Replies: 5   Last Post: Aug 18, 2013 5:46 PM

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 gaya.patel@gmail.com Posts: 160 Registered: 11/29/05
Re: to contruct reals as infinite decimals, do you need axiom of choice
Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:36 PM

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:09:26 AM UTC-4, dull...@sprynet.com wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 00:33:40 -0700 (PDT), G Patel
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> <gaya.patel@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >Hi friends of sci.math. I have a question:
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> >To construct real numbers as infinite decimals, do we need axiom of choice?
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> No. At least I don't think so - it's easy to use AC without realizing
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> it.
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> >Say for example we are working in base B, then it seems we need to choose one of B natural numbers for an infinite number of positions at the same time.
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> Why do we "need" to do this? What are you trying to do, that
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> requires this?
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> Supposing we've defined a real to be an infinite decimal
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> (mmodulo the appropriate equivalence relation).
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> We'd "need" to choose infinitely many digits if,
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> say, we were trying to show that there _exists_
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> a real number. But we don't need AC for that,
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> we can just say "let every digit be 0".
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> What _are_ you trying to do, where this "need"
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I'm just trying to construct them without reading a professional construction. I failed.

So we just let S = {be set of all equivalence classes of infinite decimals} , where two infinite decimals are equivalent in such and such way.

So no AC needed because in the { } I do not use infinite choice.

Date Subject Author
8/18/13 gaya.patel@gmail.com
8/18/13 David C. Ullrich
8/18/13 gaya.patel@gmail.com
8/18/13 Tucsondrew@me.com
8/18/13 Virgil
8/18/13 fom