In order for students to be eligible to play D1 in college they must have 3 years of math that comply with NCAA standards. ?Typically courses that do not end in a regents exam are not approved. ?Schools have to write their descriptions very carefully in order for NCAA to approve them. ?Just because something counts as 1 credit for a diploma does not mean it counts for one year for NCAA. In our 2 year program NCAA agreed to allow the 2 years to count as 1 NCAA credit year. ?Any courses that begin "foundations" or have the word "applied" in the title are pretty much rejected. I am probably not using the technically correct terminology - I am just describing what I know to be true from the 2 districts I have worked in. ?Apparently in the past year or 2 requirements have become even more stringent. Liz
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-----Original Message----- From: Kate Martin-Bridge <email@example.com> To: nyshsmath <firstname.lastname@example.org> Cc: nyshsmath <email@example.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Post Equating the Common Core Assessments in june 2014
Liz, What NCAA requirements?? The PSAL requirements that effect public schools here is that students must pass 5 courses and PE (every semester) to maintain their eligibility to play. ?I think the other concerns are based on students being "college and career ready". There have been published reports that if HS students take math courses through Alg 2 they have a better chance of completing college. Since NYS requires only 3 credits/years of math, 2 year courses may interfere with students being scheduled for 3 different math courses. Especially if a school has fourth year Math courses they encourage students to successfully complete. I believe there are a myriad of reasons that Math departments or districts consider before setting up their courses. I was under the impression that NYS Regents/ NYSED are the basis of any requirements any public educational institution complies with but I could be mistaken. Kate Martin- Bridge
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On Aug 22, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Liz Waite <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
I am not sure what you mean.? Do you think that offering a 2 year algebra program is not widespread?? I think it is.? As far as I can tell only the urban and small city school districts appear to have abandoned a 2 year program - in the cases I know of it is in the name of NCAA requirements.? Most school districts DO have 2 year algebra.
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From: Evelyne Stalzer <email@example.com>
To: nyshsmath <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 10:00 am
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I would not be surprised to hear that the powers that be did not consider two-year algebra courses in their deliberations. The official model is that each of these math courses is a one year course. While there may be a mechanism used by some schools to accommodate some students with a stretched out two year version of the curriculum, this "cannot" be widespread or it would be an indictment about the suitability of the curriculum as designed.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Dianne Gizowski <GizowskD@dcmoboces.com> wrote:
While some people did begin Common Core with their 2-year Algebra students last year, it was not required. The memo regarding this refers to students taking "their first credit-bearing math course," not which course it is. I've attached the memo so that people can read and interpret it themselves. I don't know if any of the districts in my BOCES region began the new curriculum last year. I don't believe they did.
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Elaine Zseller
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:46 AM
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There is another way of viewing the 2014 Common Core Algebra assessment. Students who began a two year algebra course in 2012 should have been studying Common Core Algebra not Integrated Algebra. The first Algebra exam that they will take will be in 2014. The 2014 Integrated Algebra assessment is for those students who already took an Integrated Algebra assessment and did not pass. For the two year students, 2014 is there first assessment.
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From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Jillian Dunkleberger
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:34 PM
Subject: Post Equating the Common Core Assessments in june 2014
During a BOCES Common Core Math Camp this week an interesting discussion came up that I wanted to post on the list serve to draw attention and gain input about. We were discussing the June 3rd Common Core assessment timeline and how NYSED plans to Post-Equate the scores for the new Algebra Common Core assessment in order to avoid a Math A repeat. Our discussion was in concern about skewed results based on the population.
Most schools offer a 2 year stretch Algebra course. Students that took year 1 of that course with the 2005 standards last year will continue with the 2005 standards taking year 2 this year culminating in the old regents exam in June. Students just entering 9th grade taking the 2 year stretch course will not be taking a regents exam in june and instead will wait until 2015 to take the Common Core Regents Exam in Algebra 1. What this means is that in the 2014 administration of the exam, the lowest students will not be taking the Common Core exam. Our concern is if NYS post equates the exams based on the 2014 results and then uses that formula, curve (what ever you want to call it) to convert any subsequent years results it will be skewed data because the lowest of the students weren't factored in.
We know they must have (I hope) considered this when they would have had the same issue when phasing into new curriculums in the past but we were wondering if anyone has heard anything from NYS about this issue and wanted to make sure they were aware of it.