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Topic: Godels theorems end in paradox (1)
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Re: Godels theorems end in paradox (1)
Posted: Sep 19, 2013 8:57 AM
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On Septembre 19, 2013, sperm...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Australias leading erotic poet colin leslie dean has shown Godels theorem ends in 2 paradoxes
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> http://www.scribd.com/doc/32970323/Godels-incompleteness-theorem-invalid-illegitimate
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> Paradox 1\
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> Godels theorem proved that provability is not the same a truth
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> Ie truth of a maths statement is independent of its proof
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> or
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> provability-within-the-theory-T is not the same as truth
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems#Meaning_of_the_first_incompleteness_theorem
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> ?Any effectively generated theory capable of expressing elementary arithmetic cannot be both consistent and complete. In particular, for any consistent, effectively generated formal theory that proves certain basic arithmetic truths, there is an arithmetical statement that is true,[1] but not provable in the theory (Kleene 1967, p. 250)
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> For each consistent formal theory T having the required small amount of number theory
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> ? provability-within-the-theory-T is not the same as truth; the theory T is incomplete.
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> It is shown by colin leslie dean that Godels theorem ends in paradox
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> it is said godel PROVED
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> "there are mathematical true statements which cant be proven"
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> in other words
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> truth does not equate with proof.
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> quote "? provability-within-the-theory-T is not the same as truth; the theory T is incomplete."
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> thus
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> if that theorem is true
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> then his theorem is false
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> PROOF
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> for if the theorem is true
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> then truth does equate with proof- as he has given proof of a true
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> statement
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> but his theorem says
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> truth does not equate with proof.
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> thus a paradox


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