Not everyone who skips precalculus gets a 1. I had 2 students last year who took precalc concurrently with ap calc (had easy high grades in precalc all year) and got 5s on the ap exam (one was a junior, one was a senior). I should note that one of the 2 was not recommended to do so by previous math teachers, but seeing a challenge worked extremely hard to the point where I had no doubt he was going to earn a 5 going into the exam. My own child also took calc and precalc concurrently as a junior - no problem. Would they have had the same results had they completely skipped precalc? I think they would have because by the time they got to topics that might have helped their calc in precalc, they were "old news". So....it is definitely possible for students to succeed by skipping precalc...it is just probably kind of rare.
Elizabeth Waite AMTNYS Coordinator of Reps
-----Original Message----- From: William Wickes <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: nyshsmath <email@example.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 5:54 pm Subject: RE: AP Calculus Question
Join the club?.people must not understand what PRE means?we do the same thing skip precalculus and the we are asked why everyone in AP gets a 1?Bill
From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 6:07 PM To: email@example.com Subject: AP Calculus Question
Hi. I know many of you are busy and overwhelmed with the Common Core so I do appreciate input or advice.
I was wondering under what circumstances do other NY schools allow students to take Algebra 2 Trig , skip a Pre Calculus course, and take AP Calculus either as a junior or senior? My school offers 2 different Pre Calculus ( I teach the IB one) course so there is a math course students can take that really prepares students for advanced algebra and allow them to take AP Calc in their senior year. There seems to be a debate at my school and, as a pre calculus teacher, I am on the loosing end of it . I tend to worry often, but with the Common Core, won't their be gaps in concepts (such as Trigonometry) to prepare students for the rigor of Calculus. Thanks for your input!