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JT
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Re: Matheology sqrt(2): WM admits to unlistability of 0/1 sequences
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Dec 22, 2013 5:45 PM


Den söndagen den 22:e december 2013 kl. 23:14:38 UTC+1 skrev Zeit Geist: > On Sunday, December 22, 2013 1:30:06 PM UTC7, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Den söndagen den 22:e december 2013 kl. 01:27:55 UTC+1 skrev Zeit Geist: > > > > > > > Jonas.t write: > > > > > > > > So is it possible the answer is never, and could the conclusion be that 0.999... not really equal to 1. > > > > > > > So then what does it equal? > > > > What is 1  0.999... equal to? > > > > It must be positive if 1 ~= 0.999... . > > > > But, if x is positive, then 0.999... + x is greater than 1. > > > > > > > ZG > > > > > > The correct answer to that question is a string of infinitly many zeros followed by a one. > > > > > > > Which is NOT a Real Number. > > The Decimal Sequence for Real Numbers ( between 0 and 1 ) have only 1 decimal place for each Natural Number. > > > > > Now i do not consider infinity to be numerical or having a magnitude, a limit is another thing. > > > > > > You see it is all very simple to be able to claim that 0.999... actually add up to 1. You must be able to prove that there is such x that 10^x actually equals zero and i do not see how you can. > > > > > > > Why is that? You seem confused. > > > > > The use of ALL seem a little fuzzy since creating all is not reachable. > > > > The set of Natural Numbers reaches any finite n. > > > > > Take this computation when will it reach zero, the answer is never. There is no infinite sequense of 0.999... that will render a zero in the remainder, that is simple truth. > > > > Maybe because it's an Infinite Sequence? > > > > > > > > Bijective bases do not have that problem in any instance you just can add an A to tranform to raise the previous 9 to an A. > > > > > > > > > And since in bijective base 1 equals .A the problem could never occure as i see it 0.999... is the unfortunate result of t that 1/3 can not be expressed in using base 10 decimals. > > > > > > And it followed that 3*0.333... must have an answer. > > > > > > The simple truth is that you simple can not partiton 1/9, 1/3 in base ten decimals exactly. > > > > > > > Not for a finite number of Decimal Places, but the Real Numbers are defined in Infinitelly many. > > > > > > The workround fix was to just stipulate and claim that they will if there is an infinite number of following 3s or 9s. > > > > > > > Because There Is! It's Not a "workround". It's a fact. > > > > > > But it simply not the truth. > > > > > > x=1; > > > > > > y=0.9 > > > > > > while (x>0) {x=xy; y=y/10;} > > > > > > Will Always give a none zero remainder. > > > > Because? I will let you figure it out. > > > > ZG
Because numbers are not made out of pink fairies? Yes that may be the case so let me handle the numbers and you go play with the pink fairies.


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