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Peter Percival

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Re: Truth behind Paradox of Self Reference
Posted: Aug 26, 2014 5:28 AM
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Peter Olcott wrote:
> On 8/25/2014 2:28 PM, Peter Percival wrote:
>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> Antti Valmari wrote:
>>>> So today, G is
>>>> considered as a true but unprovable sentence.

>>> Yet that is the huge error right there!
>>
>> Why?
>>

>
> It certainly is not [true] in any Boolean sense of the term [true].
> This elephant is not true, and this elephant is not false, thus this
> elephant is not a truth bearer.


If you think that Gödel's incompleteness theorem has got anything to do
with elephants you are seriousy mistaken.

Leave to one side Gödel's theory P which is more complicated than need
be. A "modern" G is an expression in ', +, * and the usual logical
constants including =. All its variables are bound. It is a sentence
It is undoubtedly true or false.

--
[Dancing is] a perpendicular expression of a horizontal desire.
G.B. Shaw quoted in /New Statesman/, 23 March 1962



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8/20/14
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Peter Olcott
8/21/14
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Peter Percival
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Peter Olcott
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Peter Percival
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Peter Olcott
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Antti Valmari
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namducnguyen
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Kaz Kylheku
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namducnguyen
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namducnguyen
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Peter Percival
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Peter Percival
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Peter Percival
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Antti Valmari
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Peter Olcott
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Peter Percival
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Kaz Kylheku
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Jim Burns
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Jim Burns
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namducnguyen
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Peter Percival
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Antti Valmari
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Newberry
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namducnguyen
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Peter Percival
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Peter Percival
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Jim Burns
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Peter Percival
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Rosario1903
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